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Date Posted: 22:47:33 02/05/12 Sun
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: Will the real Restoration church please stand up . . .
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: Will the real Restoration church please stand up . . ." on 17:44:38 02/05/12 Sun

>>>Remember that game, What's My Line?
>>>Members of the c-not-of-c (legal name Community of
>>>Christ) claim that they are the continuation of the
>>>Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
>>>Saints. I don't think even the courts can make that
>>>true. They have tried to be all things to all
>people.
>>>------------
>>
>> >>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/news/GeneralInfo.asp#of
>f
>>icials">http://www.cofchrist.org/news/GeneralInfo.asp#
>o
>>fficials
>>
>>Community of Christ
>>General Denominational Information
>>
>>This is what they say:
>>
>>HISTORY
>>
>>The church was legally organized on April 6, 1830,
>>in Fayette, New York. Following the assassination
>>of founder Joseph Smith Jr. in 1844, the church split
>>into multiple groups. Joseph Smith III succeeded his
>>father and was ordained prophet-president of this
>>denomination on April 6, 1860.
>>------
>>
>>And then this is what they turn around and say in
>>order to gain admittance into the National Council of
>>Churches:
>>-------
>>
>> >>href="http://www.ncccusa.org/witnesses2010/ga-merc-rep
>o
>>rt-community-of-christ.pdf">http://www.ncccusa.org/wit
>n
>>esses2010/ga-merc-report-community-of-christ.pdf
>>
>>page 2
>>
>>The Membership and Ecclesial Relations Committee
>>(MERC) of the General Assembly of the National Council
>>of the Churches of Christ in the USA and Church World
>>Service recommends to the 2010 General Assembly that
>>the membership application of the Community of Christ
>>(COC) be approved. This recommendation is based on
>>a careful review of written materials provided by the
>>COC,
>>
>>page 3
>>
>>It is always important at the onset of any
>>discussion of the spiritual roots of Community of
>>Christ to note that its founder is not [Joseph Smith]
>>of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
>>(LDS), but his son, Joseph Smith III,
>>---------------
>>
>>How can they have two distinctly different histories?
>>By their own logic Grant McMurray, who resigned
>>suddenly as president, was the founder of the
>>Community of Christ. That is when they changed their
>>name from Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
>>Day Saints to Community of Christ. Maybe they should
>>get their history straight for their website.
>>
>>Submitted by Lois
>
> >href="http://www.ncccusa.org/witnesses2010/ga-merc-repo
>rt-community-of-christ.pdf">http://www.ncccusa.org/witn
>esses2010/ga-merc-report-community-of-christ.pdf
>
>We Share
>Identity, Mission,
>Message, and Beliefs
>(this is prepared by the Community of Christ, so the
>credit or blame goes to them.)
>
>page 10
>
>The story of the church is one of unusual faith,
>vision,
>and creativity in response to God’s call. We can
>clearly
>see God’s Spirit active in every chapter of our faith
>story.
>What began with a teenager seeking God in
>prayer in
>the early 1800s continues today. God gives each
>generation
>insights, experiences, and challenges for divine
>purposes.
>-------------
>
>Notice how they just can't say the name of Joseph
>Smith Jr. Instead he is some anonymous "teenager".
>
>Submitted by Lois

https://dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/u....e_V39N04_39.pdf

page 18

Grant McMurray and the Succession Crisis in the Community of Christ
by William D. Russell

. . . . two people objected to the fact that "seer and revelator" had been left out of the statement by the Twelve recommending Veazey to be "president of the high priesthood, prophet and president of the church." They cited the language of "prophet, seer and revelator" in Doctrine and Covenants 104:42 (LDS D&C 107:92). Apostle Dale E. Luffman, presiding over the meeting, suggested that the word "prophet" pretty well covers "seer and revelator" also, then later noted that "seer" and "revelator" connote "images of magic and folklore" that, he suggested, no longer serve us well.

Dale E. Luffman, email to William D. Russell, June 28, 2005.
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Submitted by Lois

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