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Date Posted: 15:04:18 04/13/05 Wed
Author: Desiree S. Ray
Subject: Re: spiritual growth in UBF
In reply to: coadmin 's message, "Re: spiritual growth in UBF" on 13:18:03 04/13/05 Wed

Dear UDI99;

Let me just say that it is obvious that you just do not GET IT!!!

First of all, your desire to not state your real name indicates that to me that you feel shame about your UBF convictions.

Do you see most of the former members hiding behind a false id? If you really believe in what you are saying here, I challenge you to state your name, where you are from and tell us how long you have been in UBF.

Now, as far as what your opinion is regarding "feeding sheep", let me tell you I did that for almost all of my time in UBF. Did it bear fruit? Yes and No! I studied with one brother from Bejing who eventually returned to China. Before he left he became a Christian. He moved to Greensboro NC before leaving the USA. He was Baptised in the Baptist church and departed the USA ready to return to his country and share the Gospel with his family. I thank God for this every day because my life was used to share the Gospel with him (while I was a UBF member). I am grateful that he did not study long enough with me to become contaminated with the Gospel according to Samuel Lee.

Despite telling you this FACT; the TRUTH remains the same. Senior UBF membership MUST be held accountable for the abuses they supplied on a daily basis.

Until they come out of the shadows and repent, UBF cannot be considered a REAL CHURCH, nor can Sarah Barry, Paul Hong, Ban Toh Ron Ward or any other "leader's" be considered REAL CHRISTIANS!!!

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Re: spiritual growth in UBF -- Tony Lang, 02:05:43 04/14/05 Thu

moderation is not censorship -- Chris, 03:34:04 04/14/05 Thu

Re: moderation is not censorship -- coadmin, 07:18:24 04/14/05 Thu
- Removal -- Mike K., 08:26:56 04/14/05 Thu
  - Re: Removal -- Chris, 09:06:50 04/14/05 Thu
    - Re: Removal -- Desiree S. Ray, 11:30:52 04/14/05 Thu
      - Not a 2nd gen -- ChicagoXile, 22:31:01 04/14/05 Thu
    - Not the archives -- Mike K., 11:39:16 04/14/05 Thu
Re: moderation is not censorship -- Tony Lang, 08:30:40 04/19/05 Tue
- Re: moderation is not censorship -- Chris, 11:42:46 04/19/05 Tue
- Discussion style -- Chris, 12:23:11 04/19/05 Tue
  - Re: Discussion style -- Tony Lang, 08:25:35 04/20/05 Wed
- only way we can contact them? -- Chris, 15:29:47 04/19/05 Tue
  - Re: only way we can contact them? -- Tony Lang, 08:36:01 04/20/05 Wed
- Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Joe, 19:14:18 04/19/05 Tue
  - "discussion" -- Chris, 04:38:39 04/20/05 Wed
  - Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Tony Lang, 08:45:09 04/20/05 Wed
    - Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Joe, 10:37:38 04/20/05 Wed
      - All who should come out have come out -- Chris, 14:03:58 04/20/05 Wed
        All who should come out <em>will</em> come out -- PECAS, 20:33:10 04/20/05 Wed
        Re: All who should come out will come out -- Chris, 01:52:35 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: All who should come out <em>will</em> come out -- Tony Lang, 01:54:11 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: All who should come out will come out -- Chris, 04:36:16 04/21/05 Thu
      - Rsqubf Provides a Contribution -- PECAS, 20:07:49 04/20/05 Wed
      - Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Tony Lang, 01:37:11 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Chris, 02:08:33 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Joe, 10:03:04 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Tony Lang, 09:02:07 04/23/05 Sat
      - Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Desiree S Ray, 08:47:12 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- ChicagoXile, 10:09:30 04/21/05 Thu
        Re: moderation, censorship or ... -- Desiree S. Ray, 10:39:30 04/21/05 Thu

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>Dear UDI99; > >Let me just say that it is obvious that you just do >not GET IT!!! > >First of all, your desire to not state your real name >indicates that to me that you feel shame about your >UBF convictions. > >Do you see most of the former members hiding behind a >false id? If you really believe in what you are >saying here, I challenge you to state your name, where >you are from and tell us how long you have been in UBF. > >Now, as far as what your opinion is regarding "feeding >sheep", let me tell you I did that for almost all of >my time in UBF. Did it bear fruit? Yes and No! I >studied with one brother from Bejing who eventually >returned to China. Before he left he became a >Christian. He moved to Greensboro NC before leaving >the USA. He was Baptised in the Baptist church and >departed the USA ready to return to his country and >share the Gospel with his family. I thank God for >this every day because my life was used to share the >Gospel with him (while I was a UBF member). I am >grateful that he did not study long enough with me to >become contaminated with the Gospel according to >Samuel Lee. > >Despite telling you this FACT; the TRUTH remains the >same. Senior UBF membership MUST be held accountable >for the abuses they supplied on a daily basis. > >Until they come out of the shadows and repent, UBF >cannot be considered a REAL CHURCH, nor can Sarah >Barry, Paul Hong, Ban Toh Ron Ward or any other >"leader's" be considered REAL CHRISTIANS!!!
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