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Date Posted: 15:19:21 02/24/05 Thu
>Um, I'm pretty sure Goku could beat jla cartoon
>Superman, but Post-Crisis and Pre-crisis Superman, I
>would have to say no, and don't give me that shit he
>can beta him to cause your just showing how ignorant
>you are.
>
>First, lets compare the strengths.
>
>I'll start with Post-C Supes.
>
>His strength is in the 25-40 billion ton area.
>
>his speed is a little below near light speed.
>
>Goku's strength is he can't lift ten tons in normal
>form with out going ssj. He seems pretty weak to me
>when it comes to physical strength. Lets just say From
>base to ssj3 his power increases a thousand fold. So
>that mean 10 ten tons would be like 10,000 tons, still
>no match for Post-c Supes.
>
>Lets use dbz logic here, in that show, power > skill,
>it doesn't matter how freaking skilled you are, no
>amount of skill will make up for the huge gap in the
>differences between powers. Like Nappa vs. Z-senshi,
>Base Goku vs. Frieza, cell form 2 vs. ussj vegeta,
>ussj vegeta vs. perfect cell, ssj2 gohan vs. perfect
>cell. Your skills don't mean jack if your opponent is
>vastly greater than you, and Post-c Supes is vastly
>stronger than Goku when it comes to strength.
>
>I never even say Goku move any where close to light
>speed. Please don't bring in that badly flawed dub
>crap to support your claims either. I'm going to go
>out on a limb and say Goku is some where close to it,
>but I believe Supes would still be faster. Goku's
>IT(Teleport) Move would prove useful, but Supes has a
>normal ki level, remember he doesn't use ki or
>practice it, so his ki level would be like power level
>2, and we all know how hard it is to sense a low level
>like that, remember when Goku tried to sense bulma,
>yea something like that.
>
>Plus he can't IT anywhere, he needs a ki signature,
>you didn't see him telelporting to any other worlds in
>the Cell saga did yea, he cna't sense that far,
>remember he had to go to North Kaiou(King Kai) to find
>New Namek. Lets put this in a neutral setting on
>Earth, this means no cheap ass Goku teleports to
>another world crap. Also, he wouldn't blwo up the
>Earth either, i don't think Goku wants to die in
>space, and don't bring up stupid kryptonite crap
>either, like Goku would be using cheap tricks to win a
>fight, who the hell does Goku magically know what the
>little greens stone is.
>
>And also blow up the sun? And now why is Goku doing
>stuff completely out of character? Right, he would
>blwo up the sun and sacrifice over 6 billion people
>just to beat one guy. Goku wants to save people, not
>kill them, quit making him do stupid shit.
>
>Where was I, oh yea. Supes has fighting skills, he
>knows martial arts, you guys forgot he was trained for
>several years by the great fighting expert Mongul in
>hand to hand combat and a few martials arts as well.
>Don't forget Supes knows Kryptonian martial arts
>called Torquasm Rao which looks remarkably like Tai
>Chi. So he's not this lying piece of crap most of you
>people make him out to be. Look at this scan of Post-c
>Supes training with Master Mongul.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/edward_ace1/images/superman1/s
>upes-mongul01.txt
>
>Notice he's easily moving at dbz speeds and such with
>the after image and such. Yea, but you guys think he
>couldn't do that huh.
>
>So giving the stats here, Post-c Supes definitely has
>the advantage here.
>
>Now until to Pre-c Supes. Does any one remember this
>guy before the reboot in 1986. This guy was insanely
>powerful. Blew out the sun with his mere breath,
>destroyed a freaking Solar System/galaxy with a super
>sneeze, a freaking SNEEZE man!!!! Could travel/move
>around at speed several times greater than light. I
>don't remember Goku accelerating at over 300,000
>milies less than a second and beyond. Speed that Supes
>can do easily. Shrugs blast ranging over 100 megaton
>blast off with little to no injuries at all. Remember,
>5 megatons or last can easily destroy this world.
>
>strength is capable of freaking push/tossing planets
>like a baseball. This guy carries mountains while
>flying through the air, and tossing trillin tons
>objects like nothing. Seriously, at this level of
>strength, this guy can walk with little effort in
>100,000,000,000 times Earth's normal gravity, what dbz
>character can do that, only person who's went up to
>450g was Vegeta. I seriosuly love to see Goku or
>Vegeta try to do that. Goku does have mega powerful
>enegry blasts, but Pre-c Supes has taken planet
>shattering blasts, so he got this control. Remember,
>this guy freaking destroyed like a Solar System, give
>credit where it's due. The guy can freaking time
>travel with pure speed alone, not even ssj Future
>Trunks can do that.
>
>The difference between Pre-c Supes strength and Goku's
>strength is bigger than the difference between Frieza
>and Cell. Wanna bring db gt in here, then ok.
>Remember, Goku has trouble lifting big heavy objects,
>in fact he struggled to lift a building as ssj4, and
>you say he can beat Pre-Supes? Now who is beign a dumb
>fuck. Guy with strength capable of tossing a planet
>vs. a guy who has trouble lifitng a building in his
>highest form. Please, get real. I'm a big dbz fan, but
>I won't let blind fanboyism get me way from deciding
>what's true. I mean I could say I hate and think Ryu
>is a piece of shit compared to Mr. Satan (Hercule) but
>lets be honest, who's going to win regardless if we
>think sucks, that's right, Ryu.
>
>I mean if some of you people are going to make a
>decent argument, then at least try stating some good
>points beside I think Supes is gay, Goku has the green
>stone, Goku has cool blonde hair, I mean seriosuly,
>grow up.
>
>Sorry folks, just had to get that dbz stuff out the
>way.
what the hell do u really know i mean come on ok pre-c supes would really stand know chance against goku because goku is the most strongest person in the universe u say that he struggled with a building at level 4 well japaness made that cartoon go figure maybe you should go to some dbgt websites and look at there really power level because super sayian level 4 gogeta power level was capable of 100,000,000,000 tons and thats know joke i'm probably the biggest fan there is i like marvel and dc better but i except the truth that goku or vegeta could beat every single one of them because goku even was strong enough to be the next eternal dragon pre-c supes is not as strong as u really think he is i mean come on he has a hard time putting up fights with darkside and even weaker ppl robots have put of bigger fights to goku then supes well ever i mean what really can he do goku one 100times super kamahama wave would wipe him the fuck out easily or how about super spirit bomb there is no way he can with stand all of his blast no way at all and oh wow time travel he would never get away from goku to get fast enough to do that he would try but goku would be alwayz in front of him and goku would even give him a fighting chance and probably the opinion to surinder and then when pre-c supes said no goku would wipe a whole can of wope ass all over him well what else do i need to say go goku you the man
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