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Date Posted: 10:23:17 08/20/09 Thu
Author: Jeffman
Subject: Re: Does it matter in the end?
In reply to: Kelsey 's message, "Re: Does it matter in the end?" on 07:10:11 08/20/09 Thu

I think the root cause is not whether or not we can tax people enough to pay for Govt healthcare. The problem is that unless the runaway costs of healthcare are addressed NO amount of taxes will be enough. Which is why medicare is going bankrupt... its not the amount of taxes they are bringing in but the cost of care. At the current rate Medicare will consume a full 20% of the entire federal budget in just a few years with no end in site to the runaway spending.

So yes we can tax people more and pay for just about anything but if the root cause of this problem isnt addressed we willl bankrupt the economy in short order.

The reforms that are needed are to address cost for healthcare. Once that is addressed the insurance portion of this could be addressed very easily with a market solution with very few federal regs.


>I'm not sure that I'm clear about what you mean. You
>say the system is on the brink of absolute failure.
>How so? And according to what I have seen it's the
>Canadians coming here for treatment, not the other way
>around.
>
>The majority of Americans are opposed to public health
>insurance, and it isn't because they are being "scared
>off" by these ridiculous tactics some are employing.
>It's because they know that it will lead to further
>taxation and government control over their lives.
>
>I don't get why they keep trying to beat us over the
>head with a hammer. Instead of trying to force this,I
>don't understand why the President does not come out
>and simply say that we need to back up a bit and get
>this thing right. Then work on a plan that Americans
>can support. To keep pressing this is akin to
>political suicide. Have a look at the polling, Pubs
>leading in double digits in key races for Congress and
>Governorships.
>
>In any case, how do you propose that we pay for a
>government system when we already have 107 Trillion
>unfunded liability for the current government systems
>of social security and medicare?
>
>
>
>
>>The system is on the brink of absolute failure. It
>>probably can't stand up another three years, without a
>>complete overhaul, and there is a grim and utter
>>determination not to allow this cash cow to die before
>>sucking out the last drop.
>>
>>Or do you really believe the US can actually pay 25%
>>or more of GDP to a single industry, that supplies
>>nothing of value that can't be bought in another
>>country for less than half the price? Already we have
>>many middle class citizens flying to Mexico or Costa
>>Rica for medical care. And laws have been passed to
>>prevent citizens from going to Canada for medical
>>care.
>>
>>It would be way cheaper to rescue the old system and
>>reform it than build a new one from scratch, but that
>>appears to be the only solution acceptable to
>>Republicans and Blue Dogs.
>>
>>
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  • Re: Does it matter in the end? -- Shirley, 14:13:41 08/20/09 Thu
  • Re: Does it matter in the end? -- Kelsey, 08:13:53 08/24/09 Mon
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