| Subject: god, who can't logically exist. |
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Date Posted: 07:00:46 08/31/00 Thu
they say god is allpowerfull, meaning that he can do everything, but this, as any intelligent person would agree, is a logical impossibility. allow me to demonstrate by using a very simple and age-old question:
could god make an object, that is so heavy, that even he can't lift it, using whatever means available to him?
he either can't make it, or can't lift it (using whatever means available to him), this in itself proves the non-existance of an all-powerfull god (and therefore, the christian god, who is defined as allpowerfull). ofcourse christians attempt to refute this argument through various means (and fail at doing so), for example: "but why would god want to make such an object, that doesn't make sense!"
wether or not god would want to make the object is irrelevant, if he could make the object, he couldn't lift it, and if he could lift it, he couldn't make it in the first place.
"but god doesn't have to follow the rules of logic! so he can still do both!"
this is ofcourse a cop-out, but it appears as though the christian has won, or did he? only one question ofcourse remains us:
could god do it within the laws of logic?
obviously not, and so we still have proven the non-existance of an all-powerfull god. (and thus the christian god)
ofcourse, god is also defined as being omniscient (all knowing), that would mean he would know the future before it happened, being that he is all knowing, he would know the consequences of every event and action. in essence he wouldn't really have any free will himself. ofcourse then arises the question of how we can use this to show the non-existance of the christian god. well, think about it, christians claim that quite specifically that god made mistakes. supposedly humanity has done things that god didn't want us to do (why would there be a hell after all?), he told us not to eat from the fruit of knowledge, yet we did. if he was omniscient, he would know beforehand that we would eat from it anyway, so if he didn't really want us to eat from it, he would've devised a way to make sure we didn't. seeing as he didn't, we can be pretty sure that he either a) intended for us to eat from it, or b) isn't omniscient.
if b) is the case, the christian god can not exist.
if a) is the case, then god, who is also defined as being all-good, can not possibly exist either. after all, we are supposedly punished for what adam and eve did, they were thrown out of paradise for something god fully intended, basically speaking, he punished them (and us) for something that was his plan. this is not the act of a good god.
and so we have it, the christian god can not exist.
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