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Date Posted: 21:11:24 08/04/05 Thu In reply to: 's message, "Re: Arriva's "rust buckets"" on 22:57:04 08/03/05 Wed I agree with alot of your comments, but Arriva will never run buses like trent do. For a start Trent is focussed on a small area, Derby/Nottingham mainly. It is also one of the leading companies in the UK, whereas customer satisfaction and fleet age are concerned. I cant see Arriva Derby ever matching this. It is part of a large corporate company, controlled from another city. Profit is paramount to them. Putting new buses onto routes will not save them enough money to justify it. An old bus will produce the same amount of income as a newer one (or as near as). Basically they cannot afford to replace all step entrance buses with nice shiny low floor ones. If they did do this in Derby, another Arrriva depot/area would miss out. There are quite a few Trent buses on the road that are over 5 years old too. >The Chellaston Dart's are fairly good during the >daytime however according to some drivers they are >extremely unreliable and prone to breaking down >(theres been quite a mixture on the Chellaston route >as of late - Citybus's, DAFs the Alvaston Olympians >etc). > >On numerous occasions the Dart's have become heavily >packed before they reach Osmaston and many Osmaston >residents are left standing (not good during Winter >time). > >Arriva need to consider "supply and demand" and >utilise Double Decker busses on the single Decker >routes during peak times. Osmaston road is one of the >worst roads in Derby and the busses are high >frequency, though the council should be to blame for >high levels of housing estates built along this road >(also Swarkestone bridge is accident hotspot). > >Trent also increase there fares however their >passengers are getting better value for money as trent >invest alot in new busses (they have a promise of >having no bus over 5 years old). > >Arriva's running busses over 20 years old, surely >disabled, elderly and parents would much prefer low >floor vehicles like those Trent run? > >The litter is fairly appalling, as are the behaviour >of some passengers who seem to enjoy assaulting the >bus driver and throwing objects at others. > >When travelling to friends houses on Trent routes I >always feel a bit envious. > > >>The Arriva fleet in Derby isn't that bad! There are >>other areas that Arriva serve that have much worse >>services and indeed buses. The Arriva Derby services >>are punctual, albeit using older buses on some routes. >> The main fault i find with their buses is the litter >>- they need to be cleaned whilst in service really. >>Im not sure if trent still do this, but their buses >>always appear to be cleaner! >> >>I understand that the Darts used on the Chellaston >>routes will be gradually repainted, and the branding >>phased out. >> >>Also Arriva is not the only company putting fares up. >>Trent also do this! >> >>Personally I dont like the DAFs. If theyre quality >>buses, i dont want them! The Volvo B10BLEs are nice >>though, much better "quality" buses. >> >>A bit contravertial perhaps, but do Arriva need >>deckers? Could they follow Trent example and use just >>SD buses on higher frequencies? Saying that I wouldnt >>want deckers to dissappear, and i can't see that they >>will. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Trent Barton's invested in new busses pretty much >>>every year from my observation, already decent busses >>>are being replaced with even better ones (Mickleover >>>routes for instance). >>> >>>From what I know Arriva is a very large company, and >>>is constantly increasing its fares however theres >some >>>really ancient looking vehicles (i.e 20 year old >Volvo >>>Citybus's). Ok theres been some investment (the >>>Chellaston Dart's, DAFs) but considering Arriva are >>>increasing the fares on a regular basis it would be >>>nice if we were using some decent quality new busses. >>> >>>I make use of the Chellaston darts and even those are >>>looking shabby, the route displays are barely >working, >>>most are in need of a repaint, the seats are full of >>>burn holes and covered in graffiti and there braking >>>down all the time. >>> >>>Another complaint is the lack of seats brought upon >by >>>having two large buggy spaces at the front (those who >>>live in Osmaston are lucky if the Driver stops the >bus >>>is so packed!). >>> >>>I've heard rumours theres going to be another "60" >>>route which will go by the new housing estate in >>>Chellaston. Is this the case? >>> >>>Another observation is that the 61 (Glenwood Road via >>>Sinfin Avenue) has been doing a joint route, serving >>>Maple Drive and Fellowlands Way -perhaps due to the >>>lack of busses or regular break downs? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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