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Date Posted: 12:49:57 05/23/03 Fri
Author: IDAHO
Subject: But it IS like you said
In reply to: Crysknife 's message, "too Star Warish I think." on 02:23:40 05/23/03 Fri

I don't think your personal wishes and what is portrayed in the Butlerian Jihad novel conflict at all. I mean, the Butlerian Jihad already takes place thousands upon thousands of years after our own time. Humanity probably struggled plenty with space travel to get where it was with AI.
(By the way...that is really good thinking about why Herbert wouldn't have mentioned non-Spice related space travel...though I don't think he would have mentioned it anyway).

But also, there would have been no Butlerian Jihad really if humanity were confined to only earth. As it is they are pretty much confined to only a few dozen planets in the Butlerian Jihad novel including Earth, Selusa Secundus, Giedi Prime, Jinaz ...and Arrakis is only finally starting to get notice as something other than a wasteland that the Zensunni have wandered to.
There has to be material for a story. And having humans be not much farther advanced than we are now, wouldn't make sense either. I think they have done a good job of making it somewhere in between now, and the time of classic Dune. I also don't think that it conflicts with your ideas.

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But it IS like you said -- IDAHO, 13:55:59 05/23/03 Fri

Ahh but it does conflict..... final thoughts -- Crysknife, 19:25:44 05/23/03 Fri

Well, actually Dune could never exist either -- IDAHO, 22:00:57 05/23/03 Fri
- Still Dune is a future if only a fantastic future. -- Crysknife, 22:36:41 05/23/03 Fri
  - Well...if energy is everywhere...what about the force -- IDAHO, 01:25:58 05/24/03 Sat
    - Lighten up? Not when it comes to Dune. -- Crysknife, 09:25:25 05/24/03 Sat
      - Your analogies don't make sense becasue they are NOT closer to reality -- IDAHO, 14:22:40 05/24/03 Sat
        OH GOD STOP!!!!! Are you even listening to yourself??? -- theButterfly, 17:59:21 05/24/03 Sat
        How about this as an explanation..and GOD listen to YOURSELF -- IDAHO, 20:33:29 05/24/03 Sat
        Ah, thank you. -- theButterfly, 19:57:52 05/25/03 Sun
        Thanks for the thoughtful reply, but I think I made my points already so I don't need to rehash. Peace (NT) -- IDAHO, 22:22:24 05/25/03 Sun
        What the worms eat -- AntiPaul, 06:46:28 05/26/03 Mon
        But how does the worm metabolize that? (NT) -- IDAHO, 14:17:12 05/26/03 Mon
        Silica (Any chemistry majors out there?) -- AnitPaul, 15:54:37 05/26/03 Mon
        Frank Herbert on Ecology...How about the later novels? -- IDAHO, 17:21:32 05/26/03 Mon
        Not knocking Pre's -- AnitPaul, 17:59:19 05/26/03 Mon
        Too each his own, that's perfectly valid. (NT) -- IDAHO, 18:27:34 05/26/03 Mon
        Idaho -- Crysknife, 18:17:42 05/26/03 Mon
        I was joking about The Star Wars Star Trek travel -- IDAHO, 18:36:26 05/26/03 Mon