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Date Posted: 14:35:36 09/08/22 Thu
Author: Garr (Wy)
Subject: Re: Interesting historic documentation PS
In reply to: Garr Wy 's message, "Re: Interesting historic documentation" on 10:46:26 09/08/22 Thu

As a PS, You mentioned dental procedures. I have no knowledge of additional procedures during dental procedures. However, it might be significant to note that in the US a lot of kids under 12 are routinely give nitrous oxide, or "laughing gas" for dental routine dental exams and procedures, through a mask that fits the nose only. Also most American teens routinely have their wisdom teeth taken out when they are about 16, and deep sedation or intravenous anesthesia is usually given.


>This is a new one on me! I actually had my tonsils
>out in the US when I was 8, 1960s, and had no
>additional procedures that I Know of other than
>adenoidectomy, which was routinely done with
>tonsillectomy at the time. I was actually allowed to
>keep my underpants on during the surgery, and had the
>same pair on when I awoke that I did when I was given
>anesthesia. I was circumcised at birth, RIC.
>Circumcision is the only additional procedure that I
>know of that was done during a tonsillectomy. One of
>my cousins actually got this when he was about 4
>during the late 1940s and this procedure was at its
>peak. I realize I'm talking about time frames before
>most of the procedures reported here have taken place,
> but I have also had one or two male relatives who had
>their tonsils out in the 1980s and later and, I have
>known several people who worked in the medical field
>and have never heard of catheterization for a
>tonsillectomy. That is not to say it doesn't happen,
>just that I am totally unfamiliar with it. If a
>thorough medical exam was desired or ordered to check
>for sexual abuse, or other issues, or other medical
>tests or procedures were desired or ordered, it is
>logical that they might be done while the child is
>anesthetized for a tonsillectomy. But I have no
>knowledge, direct or indirect that anything like this
>has ever happened.
>
>All that being said, I think it would be helpful if
>you could post summary or precis or abstract of your
>beliefs and conclusions, and what you base them on.
>
>Thanks and I hope this is in some way helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Thenks for your interesting historic documentation.
>>Such documentation helps me confirm the validity of
>>reports I get from my polls and direct conversation.
>>
>>I have many stories of kids finding out something
>>additional has been done in their lower body parts
>>during toncilectomy or dental procedured under
>>anesthesia.
>>
>>Somtimes they know what has been done, other times
>>they have strong symptoms in their bottom parts that
>>suggest something additional has been done.
>>
>>These symptoms have made me supsect that many kids
>>undergo cystoscopy or lower digestive endosocpy in the
>>same session as the tonsilectomy, or undergo intimate
>>examination for suspicion of child abuse, and then I
>>have suggested this as explanation in my comments.
>>
>>But often however, I think that the symptoms originate
>>from a catheter the child had inside during the
>>procedure and got taken out before awake.
>>
>>Do you have any documentation regarding other
>>procedures or catheter use during tonsilectomy?

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