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| Subject: Scandal- What happened to the eligibility requirements? Anna Grace Loudenbeck- 0 ties to Maryland and was 3rd Runner Up at Miss Tennessee Volunteer. | |
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] Date Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 10:23:00 At least 3 Teens at Miss Teen Volunteer America had 0 ties to the state they represented. What is the point in having a state pageant and be required to prove residency, school or work eligibility is the National board is going to appoint at-large state titles to girls from Tennessee to put a body on stage? Anna Grace Loudenbeck was Miss Germantown Teen Volunteer, placed 3rd runner up at Miss Tennessee Teen Volunteer, paid to be an at-large titleholder with 0 ties to Maryland, and is now Miss Teen Volunteer America in the same pageant cycle. Congratulations to the Miss Volunteer America Pageant board for figuring out a way to the rig the pageant, not have every contestant eligible by the the same rules, and you get your Tennessee girl in the end. Marti Sullivan was right going to a different pageant. She saw the writing on the wall. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
| [> Subject: I don't think they look for residency requirements when trying to find contestants to represent states that don't have a state pageant yet. How many other pageant systems do this on the regular? I think all the top announcements were totally deserved. She performed well and won. | |
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Date Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 11:41:58 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Rules clearly state the contestant must be a bonafide state resident or full-time employee or student. | |
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Date Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 12:02:00 Rules clearly state the contestant must be a bonafide state resident or full-time employee or student. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Who is Marti Sullivan??? | |
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Date Posted: Mon March 11, 2024 14:39:54 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: They actually have a home in Maryland… | |
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Date Posted: Mon March 11, 2024 20:17:05 She saw that Allison was looking for representatives for a few states that don’t have anyone. Since it was her last chance in teen, she thought “why not?” She intentionally chose the state that she DID have ties to. She has a house in Maryland. She will be a fabulous titleholder and everyone needs to support her. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Residency is where you live. I own a vacation home in another state but do not live there. If Volunteer wants any chance of establishing pageants in the current at-large states, the need representatives that are physically there- live, work or attend school in that state- otherwise you'll never get programs established there. | |
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Date Posted: Tue March 12, 2024 15:09:32 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: High School America did away with this nonsense. If you don't win a state title, you can pay to go at-large as a "Nickname" state. Why fake that you're representing an area you don't have a connection to? Before you know it, there will be a Miss Guam, Miss Virgin Islands or Miss Puerto Rico because someone owns a timeshare there. Allison needs to think about this bad precedent she has started. It leaves me with bad feelings about the Volunteer system. | |
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Date Posted: Tue March 12, 2024 15:28:12 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Does anyone have a picture of her | |
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Date Posted: Fri March 15, 2024 03:55:22 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: National Teen Pageant | |
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Date Posted: Thu March 14, 2024 12:03:47 Truth is Maryland should have won Tennessee and would have if there had been certified judges in place last summer at the State Pageant. Fact: Tennessee Queen and first RU that went at large did not place in Top 16 at National Pageant. Same will happen in Miss probably because several queens competed against the TN Queen at State. Queen won because she worked for TN Board Pageant Member. That is why so many left and went to other systems. Tennessee will never build back up until they get good quality certified judges that have NO ties to anyone. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: uhh keep in mind the Tennessee pageant is run by the same people at nationals! Do you not get that?? | |
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Date Posted: Thu March 14, 2024 14:12:10 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Not anymore. The TN pageant got its own director last year. | |
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Date Posted: Fri March 15, 2024 21:22:26 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Miss Tennessee Volunteer PreTeen Pageant 2024 | |
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Author: No name (Miss TN Volunteer PreTeen 2024) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: Fri July 26, 2024 01:20:25 Miss Tennessee Volunteer PreTeen pageant is 100# rigged. When this pageant is only based on the girls walking the stage for 20 seconds or so an unattractive, stringy haired girl in a dated, tacky dress wins the preteen pageant, there is no other excuse but super obvious rigging. The audience was in shock when they announced the winner. Many where thinking they may have gotten the girls numbers confused, but no. Of course all of the judges are from Jackson, TN and surprise!! So was the girl who won. With the only competition in the PreTeen pageant being an evening gown walk for 20 seconds of modeling on stage, it’s not hard for everyone with eyeballs to see who the winner and top 5 should be. When the judges choose the (literally) least likely girl to even place, let alone win the pageant, there is no other reason for this except that this is a rigged, unfair system. Although the preteen pageant is definitely a very small piece of the big Tennessee teen and iris pageant that night, the obvious dishonesty and rigging during the preteen pageant leaves a bad test for everyone. I mean hello! It’s obvious to all of the audience who the winners should be. Just so disheartening to the young girls who might want to move into the teen competition someday but may choose to go with MAO or another system instead. The volunteer America system really needs to get it together and take the time to hire non-biased legit pageant coaches. Not the local dentist or alderman or whatever, but actual real life experienced pageant judges from everywhere except Jackson, TN. This is not rocket science. Please get it getter because you have pretty much destroyed any faith most of the preteen girls and their Moms have in the TN volunteer pageant system. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Was there an interview or any bio paperwork submitted to the judges? | |
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Date Posted: Fri July 26, 2024 14:45:47 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: The whole situation is sad. Why invest in a state or local franchise if Tennessee is going to send all of their local titleholders that don't win Miss Tennessee Volunteer at-large? It's false advertising to say you have all states and territories represented when you aren't using the established eligibility criteria only to claim you have 51 contestants? I have lost a lot of respect for Allison and the Volunteer system because of this. We all shouldn't be surprised though. Money talks more than being ethical. | |
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Date Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 18:30:36 The whole situation is sad. Why invest in a state or local franchise if Tennessee is going to send all of their local titleholders that don't win Miss Tennessee Volunteer at-large? It's false advertising to say you have all states and territories represented when you aren't using the established eligibility criteria only to claim you have 51 contestants? I have lost a lot of respect for Allison and the Volunteer system because of this. We all shouldn't be surprised though. Money talks more than being ethical. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: This was also the case last year for Miss (tons of Utah girls) so this old news and no one seemed to care then so | |
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Date Posted: Mon March 25, 2024 14:13:05 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: you are correct, no one really cares. It just shows how irrelevant the system really is | |
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Date Posted: Wed March 27, 2024 14:03:02 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Or it shows how hard the organization is trying to grow. There are at large reps that are from all over the country, at least they aren't all from the same place/org. Personally don't like seeing recent MAO/USA state titleholders taking titles, but still better than all girls from TN. | |
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Date Posted: Thu March 28, 2024 12:33:55 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: If you are trying to make it appear you have growth in states where there is no growth, that is just fraud. Doesn't show hard work at all on behalf of the organization | |
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Date Posted: Fri March 29, 2024 14:14:04 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: I'm the state director for Miss Georgia Volunteer. | |
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Date Posted: Wed June 05, 2024 07:51:32 This year, we had a young lady from GA who competed as Miss North Dakota Teen Volunteer and we will have a GA girl competing as Miss Idaho Volunteer. In both instances, I was contacted by both Allison and Scott to ask if I was okay with this. In both instances, I agreed. I appreciate that they contacted me to make sure I had no issues before appointing these young ladies. By the way, I spoke with MY titleholders first to make sure they were okay with another GA girl competing before I told Allison and Scott it was okay. I also have requested that, in the future, in order to compete "at large" at the national level, the girl has to compete in her state volunteer pageant first. In our case, the Teen did compete in our state pageant last year, the Miss did not. I have no issues with girls competing at large, I would much rather attend a national pageant with 51 contestants than 35-40. Who cares where they are from? In my 25 years with MAO, I knew several girls who couldn't win in Georgia, so went to school in another state they thought they had a better chance of winning and going to Miss America. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Pretty sad that there are plenty of qualified women in Idaho and they went with someone who has no relation to the state tho. At least find someone who's family lives there or something | |
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Date Posted: Thu June 06, 2024 18:38:52 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: The National Program continues to work within each state to secure a Director who will produce a state contest/identify a representative. As this work continues, they are leveraging at-large appointees to further market the program. There is nothing shady about this. The absence of a state in the national pageant would serve as a disincentive to in-state, would-be contestants. It's important that each state has visibility. Eventually, they will get there; but in the meantime, this is how they are marketing the program. It's not that serious. | |
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Date Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 13:01:58 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: This, 100% | |
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Author:  Tiki-Java[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: Sat June 22, 2024 18:10:16 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: What is crappy about this is the girls appointment have no interest or intent on helping grow the organization in the state they represent. | |
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Date Posted: Fri July 26, 2024 13:03:39 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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