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Date Posted: 01:53:22 09/03/01 Mon
Author: detoured
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The Rain King problem...
In reply to: Stardoe 's message, "Re: How about even earlier?" on 15:40:39 08/31/01 Fri

Remember when that ep first aired there was a lot of confusion as to when the heck it took place. It was shown during the time Mulder and Scully were off the x-files and yet here they are on an x-file case together. And who assigned it? Was Kersh in charge or Skinner?

To refresh everyones memory here's the episode listing (you think I knew this off and? I had to look it up :-)):

Number Episode Air Date
6X01 The Beginning11/08/98
6X02 Drive11/15/98
6X03 Triangle11/22/98
6X04 Dreamland11/29/98
6X05 Dreamland II12/06/98
6X06 Terms of Endearment1/03/99
6X07 The Rain King 1/10/99
6X08 How the Ghosts Stole Christmas12/13/98
6X09 Tithonus1/24/99
6X10 S.R. 8191/17/99
6X11 Two Fathers2/07/99
6X12 One Son2/14/99
6X13 Arcadia 3/07/99
6X14 Agua Mala 2/21/99
6X15 Monday 2/28/99
6x16 Alpha 3/28/99
6x17 Trevor 4/11/99
6x18 Milagro 4/18/99
6x19 Three of a Kind 5/02/99
6x20 The Unnatural 4/25/99
6x21 Field Trip 5/09/99
6x22 Biogenesis 5/16/99

I agree that it weasn't any time before Ghosts because of Mulder's lovers comment. But when exactly did Rain King take place? It was filmed before Ghosts but aired after.
I suppose it's possible they were fooling around in season 6 but I just don't think so.
I think a light may have gone off for Scully in Rain King but nothing had happened. I don't think she was lying to Shiela.
I don't think they were together during Two Fathers/One Son with all that Fowley business going on.
And in Monday, Scully was shocked to learn he had a waterbed. Or are we to assume they never went to his place and she wondered why he hadn't invited her over to try out his new piece of furniture. ;-) But they always went to Mulder's to talk work so if they were intimate you'd think they'd go there for that too.
Anyone remember an oooold thread I posted about Agua Mala where I joked that they may alreay be involved because of the answering machine scene? (says Det, trying to recall what it was exactly herself!)
But I don't like to count AM since Scully uncharacteristically left Mulder out in the hall. :-(

We had Scully acting jealous and territorial in Alpha and Mulder acting jealous and territorial just two episodes later in Milagro. Hmm. Phil Padget (who I just saw recently in "The Perfect Storm"! What a surprise!) told Scully how she felt.

The only possibility I think might fit is if it started right after the ending of The Unnatural.
But I still go for Season 7 because of the big declaration about being each other's touchstones in Amor Fati.
I still think nothing happened but they both felt a charge but didn't know how to proceed. Why did Scully take off so fast? I think the Millennium kiss was just testing the waters.
Then we have the major firting phase in Rush and GBV.
Is it possible they got involved right after Millenium? Or is Rush/GBV just them getting more comfortable with each othert in a new way? After this is Orison which brings up the bedroom thing I mentioned in the first post.
Then Maleeni--no new info there really. Then SUZ/Closure. Now they could have already been involved by then so Scully spending the night was no big deal. Perhaps the big deal was only that Skinner "caught" them.

I also have a theory that the SUZ night may have been the first time and they felt guilty about taking advantage of a tragic situation. I also feel strongly that Mulder has been more open with how he feels and has perhaps let Scully know that he's ready whenever she is. In Signs and Wonders Mulder makes that joke about Catholic school girls and snakes. Is it an inside joke Scully is in on or is he pushing her along, hoping she might want to some day join the exlusive Catholic girl club that's familiar with Mulder's trouser snake?

Maybe he was just waiting for her to be sure in her own mind and in "all things" she finally realized she was sure. But I think it happened before all things and Scully just neded to feel sure that what they had already started was al right to continue. Chimera is after Closure which has Mulder's "not in the widely accepted definition of the term" line or whatever he said. Is he saying this because he's getting frustrated waiting for Scully to come to her realization? Also in there is En Ami. I'm not sure how that plays. Mulder was very upset abot Scully not telling him about CSM but I've felt it could be because "touchstones" shouldn't keep secret any longer and Mulder felt betrayed after they crossed that threshold.

The other big possibility is that the first time was right after the "miracle" scene in Per Manum. But we have no real way of knowing when that took place. I don't think they were together when Scully asked Mulder to be a donor. In fact they seemed much more formal with each other than most of season 7. I think the donor stuff was ealier on.

I'm with you all that Scully's "all things" look really bugged me. Was she still just unsure that this secret afair was a wise thing to be doing? Maybe it's just that she was uptight about the stuation, worried about people finding out, worrying that it might hurt her friendship with Mulder at some point... Scully always as much more worried about breaking rules so this adustment to be more "footlose and fancy free" (Brand X) like Mulder may have been very difficult for her. Mulder on the other hand is sleeping like a baby in all things without a care. In Requiem, Scully again seems a bit uncomfortable to have Mulder snuggling with her in the motel. Just more uneasiness?

Oh well, I agree it's fun to keep speculating! :-)

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Replies:

Uneasiness -- Stardoe, 02:20:05 09/03/01 Mon
- Way to go! -- CW, 20:26:06 09/04/01 Tue
  - So let me get this straight... -- detored, 01:17:57 09/05/01 Wed
    - I think so--let's ask Stardoe how they play it! (NT) -- CW, 13:32:12 09/05/01 Wed
    - It isn't basketball. -- Stardoe, 22:52:24 09/08/01 Sat
      - Cool--I don't know of anything like that here. -- CW, 20:10:53 09/10/01 Mon
      - It sounded like soccer for a bit there -- detoured, 01:51:15 09/11/01 Tue
        It's professional -ish -- Stardoe, 03:53:02 09/22/01 Sat
Making the case for Field Trip -- Rabid, one of "those people" ;-o, 11:24:58 09/05/01 Wed
- Wonderful -- CW, 13:39:00 09/05/01 Wed
- What happened to your hand Rab? -- detoured, 23:42:50 09/05/01 Wed
- Re: Making the case for Field Trip -- Islandgirl, 08:15:35 09/06/01 Thu
  - *sniff* You like my theory *sniff* you REALLY LIKE my theory *sniff* -- Rabid, the two handed typist., 17:44:27 09/10/01 Mon
    - One of my disputes with season 6 consummation... -- detoured, 01:59:25 09/11/01 Tue
      - The "Millennium" kiss -- Islandgirl, 10:06:45 09/18/01 Tue
        I agree with IG on the above points -- Rabid, 13:16:06 09/18/01 Tue
        It's also nice to think. . . -- Islandgirl, 09:26:00 09/20/01 Thu
- I think I'm going to cry. (NT) -- Stardoe, 23:00:48 09/08/01 Sat