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Date Posted: 09:23:05 10/25/04 Mon
Author: Brother in Christ
Subject: Re: New thread on doctrine
In reply to: Nick T. 's message, "New thread on doctrine" on 10:27:55 10/22/04 Fri

Hi,

Recently I have been reading some Bible commentaries by the likes of William Henry and Charles Spurgeon, to name a few.

From the first words of any outside commentary you can see just how different UBF ibterpretations are then what bible scholars say. Who do you believe numerous Bible scholars or UBF people with no Biblical training/schooling. I once mentioned something in a testimony and my fellowship leader told me how that was an imaginative interpretation. I told him I cannot take credit for that I read it from a message delivered by Spurgeon so if it is good/bad/indifferent give credit to Spurgeon. This shows the exact problem with UBF, nobody really has a clue about what the Bible actually really means.

I noticed how UBF misses and just ignores the main point in so many passages. I also saw how they make up points to make it seem like they are so smart. I think it would be interesting to see some examples of that posted here.

Besides the obvious misinterpretations of Rebekah and the Samaritan woman passages what other passages does UBF clearly not get it.

I especially see they totally miss the point when it comes to prophecy passages and passages on leaders morals. I have a couple very clear examples in mind but i want to see what you people experienced, i bet someone will mention what i am thinking about.

Please back your examples with a clear quote or sentance from a noted scholar. Lets also not get into controversial passages but passages that are so clear it is actually funny how UBF twists the meanings. Please try to be as short and concise as possible as I know this can be a long thread.

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Example from Luke 9:48 -- Chris, 15:00:12 10/25/04 Mon
- Addendum -- Chris, 15:45:19 10/25/04 Mon
- Re: Example from Luke 9:48 -- Nick T., 16:42:12 10/25/04 Mon
- Another example from Luke 9:48 -- Chris, 18:53:11 10/25/04 Mon
Example from John 10 -- Chris, 16:43:10 10/25/04 Mon
Qualities of an elder -- Chris, 17:11:20 10/25/04 Mon
- True reason why Napoleon lost the battle of Waterloo -- Chris, 18:26:07 10/25/04 Mon
- Re: Qualities of an elder -- Brother in Christ, 12:24:54 10/26/04 Tue
- Re: Qualities of an elder (Titus 1:7) -- Anonymous, 17:28:01 10/26/04 Tue
Example from Eph 4:11-13 -- Chris, 17:36:07 10/25/04 Mon
- Re: Example from Eph 4:11-13 -- Joe, 08:27:57 10/26/04 Tue
Example from Mt 23 -- Chris, 13:44:16 10/26/04 Tue
Example from Rom 13 -- Chris, 13:50:11 10/26/04 Tue
Example from Luke 14 -- Chris, 14:37:01 10/26/04 Tue
- Making -- Mike K., 10:39:20 10/27/04 Wed
Barry's misapplication of Luke 19:13 -- Joe, 09:40:53 10/27/04 Wed
Lee's mangling of Luke 13:10-13 -- Joe, 09:48:15 10/27/04 Wed
Luke 18:15-30: sell everything you have and buy a BH -- Joe, 10:37:52 10/27/04 Wed
Example from Acts 6 -- Chris, 14:12:24 10/27/04 Wed
- Interesting -- Mike K., 06:09:54 10/28/04 Thu
Example from Mark 4 -- Chris, 02:25:05 10/28/04 Thu
- Tourist missionaries -- Mike K., 07:02:40 10/28/04 Thu
Example from Mark3 -- Mike K., 09:18:00 10/28/04 Thu
- Another thing from Mark 3 -- Mike K., 09:26:02 10/28/04 Thu
- Another thing from Mark 3 -- Mike K., 09:38:13 10/28/04 Thu
  - Journaling vs. Sogams -- Tom F, 12:21:49 10/28/04 Thu
Mark 3 again -- Mike K,., 09:50:24 10/28/04 Thu
- Actually -- Mike K., 09:55:44 10/28/04 Thu
- Re: Mark 3 again - disciples=learners -- Chris, 12:01:40 10/28/04 Thu
- More linguistic fantasy: John1 -- Mike K., 14:03:14 10/28/04 Thu
  - Re: More linguistic fantasy: John1 -- anonymous, 20:56:21 10/28/04 Thu
    - Re: More linguistic fantasy: John1 -- ChicagoXile, 21:39:49 10/28/04 Thu
    - "study the Bible, believe the Bible and obey the Bible" -- Joe, 22:00:20 10/28/04 Thu
    - The operative words are "any kind of discussion". -- rsqarchive, 23:14:13 10/28/04 Thu
    - The name "Simon," clarification -- Chris, 01:59:28 10/29/04 Fri
    - Re: More linguistic fantasy: John1 -- Mike K:, 01:59:37 10/29/04 Fri
      - That was a quick answer... -- Chris, 02:05:40 10/29/04 Fri
John 1 -- Mike K., 13:17:43 10/28/04 Thu
Mark 6:30-44 & absolute obedience nonsense -- rsqarchive, 22:15:46 10/28/04 Thu
- Re: Mark 6:30-44 & absolute obedience nonsense -- rsqarchive, 22:50:05 10/28/04 Thu
  - 20 or so divorces in Chicago ubf -- Nick T., 10:30:46 10/29/04 Fri
7-6-2001 DB on 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1 -- rsqarchive, 16:40:28 10/29/04 Fri
- Re: 7-6-2001 DB on 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1 -- rsqarchive, 20:15:13 10/29/04 Fri
Re: Matt 6:33 misapplication -- Bob2, 02:40:04 10/30/04 Sat
- Re: Matt 6:33 misapplication -- Bob2, 02:57:56 10/30/04 Sat
  - Re: Matt 6:33 misapplication -- Chris, 04:44:13 10/30/04 Sat
- H+W Gospel -- Mike K., 06:52:52 10/30/04 Sat
Re: Hebrews 12:7,8 Divine Discipline -- Bob2, 12:48:54 10/30/04 Sat
- Re: Hebrews 12:7,8 Divine Discipline -- Bob2, 13:02:26 10/30/04 Sat
Stating the obvious in the most tedious ways -- Joe, 13:07:52 11/04/04 Thu
7-3-2001 DB on 2 Corinthians 5:1-15 -- rsqarchive, 19:24:37 11/11/04 Thu
- Re: 7-3-2001 DB on 2 Corinthians 5:1-15 -- Chris, 14:39:08 11/12/04 Fri