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Subject: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly (ugh! nervous!) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2024, 08:10: pm Hey All, Tomorrow afternoon is first enema for 6 year old. He has started lying to me about his pooping this summer because he knows if he goes two days without pooping he likely will get a suppository. He had to have one a couple of weeks ago and he passively refused me. Had never done that before. Just always complained that the suppositories hurt inside. He pooped yesterday but I don't think he has today. So I don't know if I should empty his rectal cavity before his enema. That would be a double dislike for him. But I don't want a fail on my first attempt on getting him cleaned out. I always glove up and insert suppositories as far up in him as I can reach. Putting the suppository against the rectal wall like is recommended and I can feel the stool in him when I do so that is the plan, to check him first and suppository if I feel stool. So nervous! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2024, 08:43: pm Hey Shelly, You will do good. Do you already have a plan on how you will give him the enema? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2024, 09:08: pm Hey AV, I do and I don't. The plan is to get the enema in him and explain later. He doesn't need to hear the whole story about how I was put in pull ups and forced laxatives in my second year of school because I started holding to avoid the open stalls in school. How much of that would he even understand? I'm just going to get him in the bathroom and bent over my left leg and lock him in and get a quart of really warm water in him. While I have him over my leg getting his enema I'm just going to tell him that this is his life now on Sunday's before Monday school to get him off to a got start each week. No specifics about colon health at this time. Let him process all of that for the next week and see if he has any questions next Sunday. If a child 5 or 6 years old needs an inhaler because of asthma they don't need a whole scientific explanation about the lungs performance and role in their health. All he needs to know right now is that this is his life. He likes to argue about the stupidest things just for the sake of arguing. So no argument will be allowed. Enema in, poop out. You are the child, I am the parent. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2024, 03:25: am Hey Shelly, You got this. Seems to be the only way really. He will not know exactly what will be happening the first time. Expect however resistance the second week since he will know what is coming as he either sees you prepare or the equipment. He doesn’t need to know at his age right now your past. Simply, get him over your knee, lock him in place, and get the enema in him. I do agree, telling him this is his life now to help him start his week. He will not know what’s happening the first time but the second enema he will put up some resistance. Like Krissi would say, Stay the course, lock him over the knee and give the enema. Like you plainly said. Enema in. Poop out. Finish it off with plenty of hugs, kisses, love, and lots of lap time. Give him something to look forward to afterwards. Keep journaling. It will help you process. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2024, 05:50: am Shelly, I wanted to elaborate on resistance. Maybe not this week, because he will not know what to expect but next week, expect some heavy punching and kicking. But always keep calm, let him do whatever he is going to do, and smile inside knowing once he is over the knee, locked in place, he is all yours. Enema in, poop out. You got this! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2024, 06:06: pm I almost couldn't do it! My heart was pounding so hard it hurt and I was sweating and breathing hard while getting his enema ready. I had to just sit and wait a few minutes and gather myself before I went and got him. Fortunately the cheapo Walgreen's hot water bottle keeps the water warm for a while. Last night I practiced with several refills to get the height and flow just right so I didn't have to close the clamp and let his colon catch up and then start it again. I wanted to get the enema started flowing just right so I didn't have to stop and it would take about five minutes to empty the bag. That is about the length of time recommended to put that much enema in someone. I knew if he was fussing, which he did, a lot, that I would feel sorry for him if I had closed the clamp to let him catch up and that I would let him up and on the toilet. Anyway, successful enema. He was so so full of stool! He had at least three days worth of pooping in him and he had just pooped before we did his enema. He has been done and in his room now for an hour. Wants nothing to do with me. Not a happy camper. He has little concept of days of the week so he doesn't have a feel for when Sunday comes again but says he doesn't like my emmama! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2024, 07:18: pm Wooooooofffffff!!! (Taking a breath) I can only imagine how you feel. You love him so much. But you did the right thing if he had that much in him. I remember when krissi posted when she helped her lady friend with her son’s enema, he was 6 as well, he said the same thing afterwards, he didnt like it. The mom said the same thing that he doesn’t know his days of the week very well. Remember though as soon as he will let you, love on him alot. Let him know you are proud of him. Use that as motivation. Just know you did the right thing if he was plugged with that much stool. You helped him. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Carol A (You did great Shelly!) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2024, 02:34: pm Bless you Shelly. Divorced mom here. Two grown boys now. In my 70s now. One of mine would accept being given a enema. The other one would fight it. As soon as he saw me getting the enema bulb out he would fuss. First few enemas I asked a neighbor mom to assist. I learned best to have every thing out and read for the enema. Then go get the one who is gettin an enema. The other mom helped hold him when he was getting the enema. She talked to him. To calm. I think you told he is 6? I didnt start using the bag enema until mine were much older. The bulb enema was given on a table. On towel. Laying on back. Legs held up some. The bag enemas were given on the bed You are right, really not worth the detailed explnation of explaing why the enema is needed. WHen mine were older, I explained the why. Enemas are better than giving harsh laxatives and other things. Best to consult with doctor before giving enema. Blessings [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2024, 08:53: pm Shelly, Thinking about you and your little fellow today. Oh, hug him so tight. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, August 30, 2024, 05:06: pm Shelly, How did it go with your son's second weekly enema last Sunday? Did he put up a fuss? Were you able to carry thru with your plan and again get a quart of very warm water into him? That's a lot for a 6 year-old. However, if you were able to gently get all of it into him that is a good thing, The farther the enema goes up into his rectum and colon the more effective it is at loosening the stool that is stuck up in there. If you continue your plan (and I hope you do), this Sunday will be his third weekly enema. You will need to be very firm with him if he resists. When everything is ready in the bathroom go tell him that it is time for his enema. If he complains or cries tell him that you are sorry that this is unpleasant and uncomfortable, but it needs to be done and has to be done now. Whenever he refuses to cooperate, immediately repeat the mantra: This needs to be done and has to be done now. If you keep repeating this often enough I think he will come to understand that enemas are going to be a part of his life. Since it appears that you are new to giving enemas, I have a couple of suggestions to offer: If your "cheapo" Walgreens enema bag comes with a regular and a douche nozzle, I suggest that you use the douche nozzle. It is less likely to clog with feces and will help the enema go in easier. Lubricate it with vegetable shortening (such as "Crisco") rather than vaseline (vaseline often is irritating to the anus) and insert it slowly and gently as far as you can into your son's anus. Just be careful not to force it into him. Mix a half a cap full of baby shampoo in the warm enema water. It will help the enema loosen the stuck feces and is less irritating than soap. Make sure the enema and nozzle stay in your son's rectum long enough for the enema to be fully effective before you let him use the toilet. 10 minutes should be sufficient. Good luck and I hope all goes well. Make sure to let your son knows how much you love him. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Divorced mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, September 04, 2024, 03:40: pm Shelly, bless you and him. Lost count. Sorry. You have given him the enema three times now? Each enema session should be easier to administer. Sure you have, but make it as a relaxing event as possible. Rewarding for good behavior. Letting him watch favorite show or read favorite book while getting the enema. Growing up I got many enemas from my aunt (nurse). She used the bulb syringe to give enemas. Given on a table. Have you tried using the bulb syringe? Giving the enema on the bed or on a table instead of across your lap way? Agree with you about explaining. When I gave enemas I only told the basics. Felt was no need to go into details. Did you consider asking another mom to give the enema? A friend of mine does that. Her 5 yo b accepts getting a bulb syringe enema from her next door neighbor. Blessings and hugs [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Divorced mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, September 04, 2024, 04:24: pm Joyce, glad you told of making the soapy warm water enema. My aunt made the soapy enema water in a pan. Made in the kitchen sink. Swishing a bar of Ivory soap in a pan of warm water. Not strong! Just a mild soapy water enema. Given with a bulb syringe on the kitchen table. Towel on the table. This is how moms gave enemas in the late 50s. I also gave the soapy water enema to mine . Then gave a Florine enema after he expelled the soapy enema. Other moms told me they made the soapy water as you told. Best to consult with doctor before giving enemas. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Divorced mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, September 04, 2024, 04:26: pm Darn spell checker!… “Florine enema” should read “plain water enema.” [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Terry [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2024, 06:07: am Hi Shelly, so glad you're making progress with your son's enemas. I used to post occasionally on the defunct E & S Message Board and can relate to some of what you write about so Id like to share my own childhood recollections if I may. After age 6 I was developing a more positive attitude towards enemas and no longer whinged and didnt need to be held down etc. Momma was clearly pleased by the change and the next time I needed an enema she told me that since I was now acting more like "a big boy" she was going to do it in a different way (which a friend had suggested) that would make things easier for both of us. She then explained the Knee-Chest position to me and how I should co-operate etc. It sounded alright to me so I had no objections. Soon I was kneeling down on a thick towel, my legs wide apart,head resting on a cushion and my butt up in the air. For the next few minutes she gave my butthole a gentle very thorough lubing and then asked me if I was ready for the nozzle. When I said I thought I was, she told me to "push back" as soon as I felt the tip. I heard her say "Here we go,relax... Enema IN !" I felt it just glide into me so easy and painless till the shield was flat up against my butthole. She waited for a few seconds and then said "OK Here comes the water!" She squeezed the bulb slowly at first and then a little more forcefully and I felt the warm solution of castile soap suds and glycerine flooding in so smoothly like liquid silk in my rectum. When the full "dose" had been injected she said "Now pull tight...Enema OUT!" And so I clenched up as she gently withdrew her syringe and refilled it. She repeated the proceedure about 5 or 6 times telling me to let her know when I was "full". She left the room telling me to remain in position and try and retain my enema for as long as I could. I did try for a while but inevitably the suds won the struggle and I had to "go". Nevertheless I appreciated the newfound privacy. What a wonderful enema that was! It had gone in deeper than ever before and what a great clean out it gave me! I really felt "on top of the world" when it was over. Momma was impressed when she came back to check the results and told me that in future I would get all my enemas that way, needless to say I was only too happy to co-operate! Of course Im not saying that my mother was the best enema giver in the world, or that her technique is the best and only way, but it sure worked well for me. Might I suggest it for your son maybe when he is older and more willing to co-operate. I think he might appreciate it? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 02, 2024, 04:19: am Hey all, Been very busy. Unable to find time to post. We basically had to rebuild our basement after it got totally flooded. Any way all is well again now. Exhausted. I'm not a carpenter! Where to start? Well the little guy had to have a spanking and then his enema the second Sunday. He scratched me like a cat when I went to get him and told him I had his enema ready. I usually reserve spankings for when they are fighting with each other so hard and physically hitting each other or throwing things. I know, all most all kids do that. But when they start hitting then there will be spankings. Anyway, so he is not unfamiliar with a spanking. He was slightly more cooperative for his enema after that. As for the suggestions, yes I use crisco for lubricant and douche nozzle, thanks. However, you can only insert the douche nozzle in about half way before you get resistance from hitting the spot where the rectum cavity curves. 10 minutes in place after enema is in? Can't do it. After the five minutes to get the enema in him he is apoplectic and too hard to keep in position any longer. I can barely handle him locked in over my left leg. He tries to push his way back up off my lap. Third enema last night was accomplished without the prelim spanking but it was close. He is definitely not a fan of the ENEMA! But, wow, he has always been a picky eater and won't try new foods and is a skinny boy. He has been eating like a horse the las two weeks. Hungry hungry! He was certainly impacted, constipated, full, packed! More reasonable amount of stool coming out with the enemas now. I arranged a little bit of fun for myself for a week ago enema. I planned for a evening out with hubby for dinner. Had a babysitter for the evening. 15 year old that sits for us often. Cute thing, would love to give her an enema. Had the enema bag hanging in the bathroom on shower nozzle to dry. She has maybe seen it before when over here babysitting if she is a snooper like I was at that age and looked in my bathroom cupboard. Anyway young fellow was already in bed and still pouting from his enema. I told her he was not happy with me and probably heading to bed early. Didn't elaborate. Hope she figured it out. Maybe he told her. He was very vocal to me and his dad about not liking my emmamas. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 02, 2024, 06:42: am Hey Shelly, Sorry to hear about your basement flooding. So glad you came and posted. Like Krissi would say, “stay the course.” He might be a fighter but it will be a fight he will lose. Sounds like you are getting some positive results. Eating like a horse, hungry, hungry and more reasonable amount of stool coming out with the enemas. That is what is important right? Now, about this cute 15 year old needing an enema? lol You never know, she might snoop, or even inquire about them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, September 03, 2024, 03:46: pm Shelly, Seems like the storms have made life difficult for you. I'm guessing that you must live somewhere in the South or Eastern US. Hope things will dry up and get better for you. Glad to hear that you have been able to keep up with your plan for your son with all you have to deal with. I do have a couple of questions for you, if you don't mind: What caused you to decide your son needed a weekly enema program? From what you have written, is your husband aware of your program and does he support it? I do have some more suggestions for you to consider: When you set up your bathroom for your son' enema, if possible hang the bag where he can't see it while the enema flows into him. If your son protests when you take him to the bathroom, ask him if he needs a spanking. Then recite mantra: "This needs to be done, and it has to be done now." Recite this often and make him recite it after you. This needs to get boring for him to make it effective in getting him to realize that the weekly enemas are going to be a routine part of his life. You said that you were only able to insert the douche nozzle about halfway into your son's rectum before encountering resistance. Good thing you did not force it in farther. Assuming that your douche nozzle is similar to the white plastic ones that come with most inexpensive enema bags, I suggest you slightly modify it to help with this. First, place the nozzle in a pan of boiling water for about a minute. This should soften the plastic. Then pour off the water and quickly grasp the nozzle with a dry dish towel and gently make about an inch long 30 degree bend in it about an inch and a half from the end where holes are. While maintaining the bend place the nozzle under cold running water until the plastic hardens. When you are ready, thoroughly lubricate the nozzle and your son's anus and gently push the nozzle into his rectum until you feel resistance. Now gently and patiently rotate the nozzle while moving it out and in about an inch until you find a path around any stool and into his sigmoid colon. Continue to gently push the nozzle in and if you again experience resistance repeat while gently working it in. If necessary, open the clamp to let the water begin flowing while you continue. Above all else, DON'T FORCE THE NOZZLE IN. Hopefully you will be able to get the nozzle all the way in without causing pain so that most of the enema will flow into his sigmoid colon where stool frequently gets trapped and less into his rectum which will make it easier for him to retain the enema for a while. Hope this helps. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 02, 2024, 09:00: pm My mom, aka "The Enema Queen", began giving my older sister and I enemas at a very young age. My older sister told me that I was difficult to potty train and mom would use enemas as an aspect of triggering a BM. I fought the enemas for several years. As I got older (6) I began experimenting with the nozzle and then self administration. In doing this, I was able to answer mom truthfully when she or the pediatrician asked if I was having BM's as expected. If I ever complained of a tummy ache or stayed home from school or church claiming I was sick, I was sure to get a date with my mom "The Enema Queen" and her intimidating red enema bag/fountain syringe. While I didn't get enemas on a "weekly" schedule, I did get them quite often. The soapy ones were when I teased my sister about her enemas. She tattled on me whenever she thought I needed an enema from mom or grandma. If efforts to give her an enema were undertaken, it wasn't unusual for me to get one also. Thank goodness I discovered the positive aspects and have been able to enjoy an enema for many decades now. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2024, 06:01: pm There's nothing that says a person has to poop every day. Every person's bowel habits is different. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Sue (UK) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2024, 05:31: am Shelly is getting the right results - in terms of what goes in the top and what comes out the bottom - so she has every reason to plough ahead, using any force/any punishments necessary to give her boy the dirt-pipe-flushing he needs. Butt of course I'm pessimistic - I have to say be prepared for the possibility that your son may never learn to accept the treatment, and his excremental-output may never lastingly improve. I never thought I'd still be flushing out my (sort-of)-fully-grown daughter let alone my teenaged second-cousin. Btw: Tim, you need to educate yourself - colorectal autointoxication is a real danger, and infrequent doohs are never ok [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2024, 10:30: am Several others appear to have given you some good advice and encouragement. It wasn't until a bit later in life, that Ireally began to enjoy enemas and colon cleansing. Mom and grandma were a bit rough as I got enemas as a kid. They did their job with support of my pediatrician and his nurse. I began to self-administer at age 6. While it was only on occasion, by the time I was 9, I had become pretty good at it. Mom a d grandma seemed to accept this, except when the doctor ordered enemas or upon getting prepped for surgery or discharge from the hospital. Hopefully, he will become more accepting and cooperative. Enemas are always better when given in a nurturing fashion. That is also a given between adults! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: John [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, September 22, 2024, 06:35: am You're doing the right thing with your daughter, Sue. It's comforting to know that in some families, enemas and suppositories are given to full grown daughters and sons when needed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2024, 02:59: am Shelly, Hope things are going well with you and your family. Hope you are encouraging your little fellow and continuing to see some positive results. I can only imagine how he feels week after week being vocal about his dislike of the enema. I am sure it is wearing on you, however you are seeing some positive eating habits plus results. Be encouraged. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, September 24, 2024, 05:16: pm Hey all, So we trudge on. I think the enemas are going well. He has become very regular at having a poop soon after school on Wed. and again on Fri. Then enema on Sun. He doesn't fight me physically but he bad mouths me pretty bad. Has gotten a few swats on the butt for his language. No serious spankings though. He knows not to push me over the line of tolerance. Joyce I appreciate all of the input. But I have him butt up and tummy faced down as he is bent over my left leg. I feel the nozzle is in far enough to do the job. He is getting a quart and a half. I take about 7 yo 9 minutes to give him his whole enema and judging by how long it takes him to get the enema completely back out, I'm getting the enema all the way up his large colon. Yes, dad is on board with the enemas. He is neutral on the need for a weekly enema but has no desire to argue about it. Both our boys struggle with constipation and need for suppositories in the past so he is on board if I want to switch to enemas. I told him about how I started holding when I started school and would mess in my pants and mom would have to bring me clean panties to school. He doesn't want that for our boys. I appreciate that a lot of you grew up getting enemas from the bulb first. Then your mom may have graduated you to the bag. I think for just a quick bowel movement to empty the rectum that would be fine but I'm going for high enemas to empty his colon. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, September 24, 2024, 10:00: pm Hey Shelly, So great to finally hear back from you. So glad everything is going good. Head down bottom up seems to be doing the job. I am so glad you stood your ground. Does he know what is about to happen now when you come get him? What are some of his statements he mouths at you? Is he producing some good BM’s on Sunday since he is pooping already on Wednesday and Friday? Thank you for keeping us posted. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, September 27, 2024, 09:21: pm Shelly, This part, “ He is getting a quart and a half. I take about 7 yo 9 minutes to give him his whole enema and judging by how long it takes him to get the enema completely back out, I'm getting the enema all the way up his large colon” says alot. A quart and a half is around 40 ounces. And he is head down bottom up locked over your knee receiving an enema taking almost 10 minutes, you know its going deep into that large colon and cleaning him out good. Those Wednesday and Friday poops are just lower colon but Sunday is when the colon gets a real workout. I bet he is furious with you afterwards. Does he have his own potty or uses the big toilet? I still would like to know though if he knows what is about to happen when you go get him for his enema? I bet there is a lot of begging and tears. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2024, 06:57: am Hey AV, Well he threatens to break things or throw things at me. He tells me I'm a bad mom, he hates the enemas and he isn't going to have any more enemas. Last Sunday he knew it was getting close to enema time and he hid from me. Took me a long time to find him. I was getting in a foul mood and decided to teach him a little lesson. The Sunday previous after I got his enema in him and took out the nozzle it had a lot of stool smeared on it and plugging a couple of the holes. I hadn't been doing rectals except to lube him and I haven't been emptying his rectum before enema like Krissi says to do. Just didn't want to put him through too insertions and bowel movements with as antagonistic as he is. Lesson learned. So, bowel movement to empty rectum before high enema going forward. Anyway I got my glove on and a glycerin suppository and hunted him down. Pulled his pants down on the spot and gave him the suppository. He resisted me but he lost in the end. Then, I was in the bathroom waiting for him when his suppository kicked in. He said he hated me and I was the worst mom ever and he was going to throw the enema bag in the trash. Other than that things have gone smoothly. He hates school. He would tell you other wise but he is a mommy's boy and doesn't like being away from home. They say kids save their worst behavior for those they love the most so next to his little brother he must love me so so much! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2024, 07:16: am So he sits on the regular toilet. His little brother has a toddler potty but he is a 'big boy'. He crawls up on the big toilet and legs dangle. I'm plotting to see if babysitter would like to witness an enema. We are invited to an afternoon house part tomorrow. Babysitter will be here to take care of the boys. I'm going to tell her junior has to have a high enema from an enema bag when I get home and would she like to 'help' me because he has gotten more and more resistant to the enema and causing me a little trouble getting him in position and the enema in him. I've been working myself up for a few weeks to get the courage to even mention to her that he gets enemas. And then this invite. So I am so nervous like I was so nervous getting ready to give him his first enema. But I'm determined to tell her about his enemas and hope she will say she will stay and help. She has sat for us three time since his enemas started and the enema bag is hanging in plain site from the shower so I know she has seen it. The next best thing to giving a young girl like her an enema would be to have her witness one. I'm so excited and scared at the same time for tomorrow. If she is like most teenagers her age she could probably use a cleaning out regularly. Oh well, wishfullness. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2024, 07:59: am Shelly, Well, he is a resister isn’t he? He thought he was going to get away from getting an enema by hiding. That suppository stopped him from hiding very long afterwards. You sit him up for a good one. I hope he doesn’t start hating the sitter if she decides to help. You may hook her though by asking her to help. Never know. Your wish may come true someday soon. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2024, 05:41: pm Shelly, I think your sitter will help with the enema. She may be old enough for you to share with her the benefits of enemas and the purpose of a clean colon. Plant that seed in her mind to ponder and think about the benefits of having one. In a smooth subtle approach almost in a joking way mention if she would like to try one you would be willing to help and kinda laugh it off. Give her something to think about. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 30, 2024, 08:10: am Hey AV, So I was the one that got super embarrassed. She was all in when I mentioned he would have to have a suppository and then high enema when I got home from the party. She started sitting for us about three years ago when youngest was still in diapers so she has changed poopy diapers. I texted her when we were about to leave the party and apologized that we were running late and if she wanted she could give him his suppository while we are headed home to get him started. If he fought her then we would do it when I got home. Got home just as he was headed for the toilet to empty his colon. She said he was totally cooperative with her. Fussed a little but didn't fight her. So we are all in the bathroom, him on the toilet and her and I getting his enema ready. My heart is pounding and I can't believe I have pulled this off. Am so excited! She is telling me that farther back than she can remember her mom has made her have Fleet enemas for constipation. A couple of years ago she was allowed to give herself her Fleet enema but she has to have one a few times every year. She hates laxatives because it is a waiting game. I told her about my holding and messing my pants at school and I didn't want my boys to do that. Anyway junior did not give us any trouble at all she stayed and held the bag for his whole enema but then she had to head home. I'm so pumped, redoing that whole experience over and over in my head. I can't believe she was so open about her constipation and years of Fleet enemas. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 30, 2024, 06:28: pm Shelly, WOW!! What more can be said? You have a sitter that already gets enemas a few times a year and has been getting them for years. And she is open about discussing. Honestly, you may be able to easily be able to move her from a fleet to trying a bag enema. Or you could continue to let her help when she is needed to sit the boys and enjoy the company and conversation. You have so many options. Pumped you should be. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 30, 2024, 06:54: pm Yes I am totally pumped. Right now I don't even care if she will let me teach her some day about her taking large enemas. I'm just so excited that I know she gets enemas and has through her whole childhood. And that she likes helping me give him his enema. I wish I had a nanny cam in the house so I could have seen her giving him his suppository. I bet she has secretly wanted to for a long time. Being a snooper like I know we are when we are teens at some ones home, she has seen the suppositories and lube and gloves and enema bag ever since she started sitting for us. She probably couldn't believe her luck when I asked if she would like to help with his clean out. She probably felt like she had won the lottery. At her age I wanted so bad to get to give some kid their enema. She was so comfortable talking and sharing her past while we were getting his enema ready. She was curious about the amount of enema I made him take. I explained to her that it takes a lot of volume to get all the way in to the end of the large colon. I was so nervous and excited at the same time with her standing there holding his bag and watching him take his enema. I was living through her what it would have been like if I could have done that when I was her age. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, September 30, 2024, 07:20: pm Shelly, You made her night and she made yours. You are so right. You know she has always wanted to give another child an enema, and you are probably right that she has wanted to give your son one. I bet she jumped for joy when asked to do the suppository and probably enjoyed given it to him plus enjoyed holding his enema bag as he took his enema. I would now say both of you are pumped. If you continue to use her with his suppository and enema, just imagine how that is going to make her feel? Talk about pumped. You now have someone to talk to about enemas and health benefits and such. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, October 06, 2024, 03:04: am Shelly, I was recently thinking about the side angle stories coming from your decision to enema your boys. First, we have your story as you tell it right now. Then in years to come we will have your sons stories of how their mom decided to enema them and their version and thoughts. We will also have your sitter now telling her story of her enemas and then one day she helped a mom enema her children. You are making memories and pumped about every minute of it. Don’t pinch yourself. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, October 07, 2024, 08:28: am Hey AV, The tweens and teens learn so much more and are exposed to so much more adult topics than even my generation was. I was only allowed a cell phone that could make calls and receive calls. The kids today have access to all the web. I noticed early on when she started sitting for us that she was more out going and comfortable talking or listening in on adult conversations. She was so matter of fact about her receiving Fleet enemas back farther than her memory would go. I was the one that was embarrassed listening to her tell about it. At her age I didn't want anyone to know about my enemas. She was so curious about the large volume enema instead of a Fleet. I'm betting she secretly wants a high enema now after watching him take his. Maybe a few months from now if she is still sitting for us I will get the courage to tell her to feel free to try our enema bag some evening after she has gotten our boys to bed. It took a huge leap of courage for me to ask her to help give junior his enema. I can't believe I pulled it off. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, October 07, 2024, 09:10: pm Shelly, Truth may be she probably has always wanted to tell someone about her enemas but didn’t know anyone. You should feel more comfortable knowing she responded in a positive way in wanting to help and felt comfortable enough even to talk. Do you feel comfortable asking her again to help with another enema for junior? It could be during that time ask her what her thoughts are of a high enema? Use her response to help formulate your next move on trying the enema bag. I feel she is one that is open. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Maxine [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2024, 11:07: pm Shelly (and others) I recently came across an article by a registered nurse, Catherine Cavanaugh, who appears to have many years of experience with children's colon health. Hope you may find this useful. http://valerie_cct.tripod.com/parentsg.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 08:56: am Thanks Maxine, Most of us parents who do enemas already knew most of this. The name Valerie rings a bell. I remember running across an article several years ago and Krissi mentioned it too, about treating ADHD with cleansing enema interventions when the child is acting up or inattentive. She had great success helping kids who are so hyper. You remove the child from any situation where they are acting out and give them a high enema. I know they had a calming effect on me. Krissi talked about being stimulated while sitting on the toilet with her enema in her but I would lose that excitement and thrill as soon as stepmom had my enema flowing. I just wanted on my toilet chair, alone, with my thoughts and calming down wanting to get sleepy to go to bed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 09:17: am Encopresis is reaching epidemic levels. The child starts out with some minor constipation, has a difficult and painful bm, and decides he or she isn't going to ever poop again. If you don't catch them holding early on and nip it in the bud, they get very good at it and the colon gets stretched and desensitized and you are in for years and years of pain and suffering for the whole family. There are several clinics across our country that specialize in treating children who actively hold in their poop. And most parents are horrified when they are told the treatment includes home administered high enemas. When parents stop wiping their child after a poop they stop monitoring when poop happens. They have no idea when their child last pooped. Shame on them. Shame on society for making parents feel they have no right being in the bathroom with their children on the toilet, even teens. Until the month I moved to college my stepmom was asking kids in the family "have you had a bowel movement today or yesterday". If the answer was no you would maybe giving until tomorrow to produce but if not successful you an enema was in order. I managed to produce for her so most enemas for me were the day I started my period. That's probably why I was not sitting on my toilet chair feeling myself like Krissi did. Didn't feel the excitement. Also, because we always emptied on the commode chair she saw what she got out of us and could tell if we were holding back, getting constipated. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: starting 6 yr. old on weekly enemas Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 10:18: am Shelly and Maxine, The use of enemas seem to get a bad rap in many circumstances. Some of us have overcome these aversions and even advocate for this simple procedure to overcome those common digestive issues. I've posted here and elsewhere that I learned to self-administer at a very young age. While I managed to achieve additional privacy, mom and grandma seemed to be aware that I was successful in managing my own BM's. Some texts advocate allowing kids to actually participate in preparing their own enemas and handling the equipment in order to become more cooperative and accepting. Best of luck in your efforts to provide an effective outcome. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]