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Subject: On this day in history
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:50:19 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/199.91.248.226) For trivia buffs and pageant fans, today, September 6, 2024 marks the 100th year anniversary of the 1924 Miss America pageant staged in Atlantic City, New Jersey on Saturday, September 6, 1924. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_America_1924 The fourth annual bathing queen Miss America pageant, had the largest number, 83, entrants of any pageant before and since then. Miss Philadelphia 1924, Ruth Malcomson won the title, and her niece was Miss Pennsylvania 1956, Lorna Ringler Graham, and Ruth's grand-niece was Miss Delaware 1980, Jodi Meade Graham. Both did not place in the Miss America pageant, however, Lorna was a non-finalist talent winner for a vocal presentation. Happy 100th year milestone centennial anniversary. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Just to let you know, there were many other Miss America pageant finale coronation shows that were held on September 6 besides just 1924 (1941, 1947, 1952, 1969, 1980, etc.). Any reason why they still do not consider the 1932 pageant (winner Dorothy Hann) a real MAO pageant even if held in Wildwood, NJ? -- http://www.nj.com/entertainment/2015/09/miss_america_new_jersey_wins_never_wins.html, 17:16:44 09/07/24 Sat (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158)

Subject: Miss America Predictions?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:43:55 08/26/24 Mon (mobile-166-194-132-041.mycingular.net/166.194.132.41) Do we have any crowd favorites? Any former teens? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I really like Washington. (NT) -- No name, 20:11:09 08/26/24 Mon (c-174-174-67-55.hsd1.or.comcast.net/174.174.67.55) Agreed. She is gorgeous and has the singing chops and a story. (NT) -- No name, 22:01:15 09/03/24 Tue (91.sub-174-224-196.myvzw.com/174.224.196.91) I'm loving Kansas and Delaware (NT) -- No name, 11:45:26 08/28/24 Wed (NoHost/167.21.141.32) I’m loving Illinois (NT) -- No name, 00:02:40 09/06/24 Fri (70-231-67-128.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/70.231.67.128) Florida is beautiful, solid dancer, business woman getting her MBA and platform is related to a personal family experience. Was very strong at state this year in a competitive field-won every preliminary category. Look for at least a T10 finish. (NT) -- No name, 16:59:45 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/142.136.0.79) I’m feeling Arkansas this year. (NT) -- No name, 20:50:58 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.94.228) Then you should keep your hands to yourself! (NT) -- No name, 01:09:11 09/07/24 Sat (syn-065-188-072-049.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.49) Oklahoma is an all-around competitor. She should do well! -- Watching, 17:10:53 09/07/24 Sat (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135)

Subject: Why are less girls wanting to compete for Miss America?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:39:54 09/04/24 Wed (173-27-77-79.client.mchsi.com/173.27.77.79) It is so hard to get anyone to compete anymore, and our locals are dying. The numbers at state have been decreasing year after year. I have my assumptions of why, but what do you think the reasoning for this is? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Too much drama and lack of leadership at the national level. Locals in my state are down to 7. Some give multiple titles. Then there is the buy in titles. It’s a sad reality MAO has hit a new low. Local orgs have slowly pulled back and stopped feeding the animal. (NT) -- No name, 20:44:46 09/04/24 Wed (syn-071-073-049-249.res.spectrum.com/71.73.49.249) Locals are dying big time in Michigan. None of the locals have direct Google websites anymore, just Facebook (NT) -- No name, 22:17:39 09/04/24 Wed (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) With the loss of TV coverage - fewer and fewer girls & sponsors know about the program anymore. -- No name, 05:22:49 09/05/24 Thu (c-73-180-55-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/73.180.55.154) In my opinion - the cost and lack of inclusivity (NT) -- No name, 09:27:07 09/05/24 Thu (syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134) Young women these days don’t need to secure celebrity status or earn money through a pageant. They can use social media and also with all the contest shows, Americas got talent, the voice, etc (NT) -- No name, 11:40:30 09/05/24 Thu (NoHost/207.193.220.28) The COST...It's 1) too expensive to compete in a local and 2) too expensive to put on a local -- No name, 11:46:00 09/05/24 Thu (ws162-209.cse.msstate.edu/130.18.209.162) Why would anyone compete in a program with such shady characters running the show at the national level? MAO is now at the mercy of a court to decide who is right or wrong in a Sugar Daddy/Bimbo dispute. (NT) -- No name, 13:46:26 09/05/24 Thu (183.sub-174-238-103.myvzw.com/174.238.103.183) so many reasons they don't want to compete. So why would someone want to direct? You have to BEG for contestants and then you get crickets. I have more respect for someone that can say no, instead of no communication. Plus it is expensive and getting worse every year (NT) -- No name, 14:34:16 09/05/24 Thu (69-9-235-254-dynamic.midco.net/69.9.235.254) Why would anyone want to compete in this dumpster fire. The organization doesn't even know who owns it. It's a below average pageant now, and a joke in the pageant world. The cost, unsure future, embarrassing national image, are just a few. (NT) -- No name, 21:11:23 09/05/24 Thu (104-7-243-204.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net/104.7.243.204) Too expensive…no real scholarship…and there’s no standard to go by (NT) -- No name, 21:26:39 09/05/24 Thu (c-73-142-196-158.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/73.142.196.158) Why would you want to be Miss America? Madison is a perfect example. She is interrupting a very busy life; her relationship and will not receive one penny for all the time she has to give MAO. I truly don’t get it (NT) -- No name, 07:59:04 09/06/24 Fri (198.55.47.66.xchangetele.com/198.55.47.66) What proof do you have that she is not getting one penny? (NT) -- No name, 08:09:09 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.239.166) Her military status does not allow her to accept any financial payments. No salary No scholarship. The perfect winner for a near bankrupt MAO (NT) -- No name, 12:17:22 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/216.250.210.173) Our girls stilll want to be Miss State. They win lots of scholarships, have fun, make friends and JT is only one year. Young people are not all craving a full tune job immediately after college. They love the experience. Not saying it is easy, but recruitment happens on local and state levels (NT) -- No name, 08:07:37 09/06/24 Fri (c-68-63-16-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net/68.63.16.3) States are so weak now that even girls w moles on their face win. Get that thing removed if you’re going to compete. (NT) -- No name, 09:08:28 09/06/24 Fri (231.sub-174-192-8.myvzw.com/174.192.8.231) ?????????????????? This is the hill you want to die on? (NT) -- No name, 13:53:07 09/06/24 Fri (c-50-169-229-90.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.169.229.90) Oh get lost, Oh Perfect One. My God, it's 2024. Stop living in the damn 50s and get with the times. Gone are the days of Stepford Wives who've all have Chicklets for teeth, hair teased to the heavens, and wearing their St. John Knit suits with platform heels and their face contoured like Skeletar (NT) -- No name, 14:42:59 09/06/24 Fri (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Imagine how much more successful Marilyn Monroe, Cindy Crawford, Paula Abdul, Scarlett Johansson, Elizabeth Taylor and Goldie Hawn would have been if not for those darned moles on their faces..... (NT) -- No name, 16:51:58 09/06/24 Fri (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Too expensive and decreased opportunities. The teens that went to nationals got ZERO. (except a limited few.) Used to be that everyone got something - $1500+. The only scholarship was to Alabama. MAO nationals gave zero. Add to that there was sketchy judging (3 judges is unheard of) and the cost was excessive and it just isn't the great program it used to be (NT) -- No name, 22:01:10 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.217.161) Too many states are fixed. Fresh, new girls don't have a chance unless they pay their dues. The cost to compete is not worth the ROI for scholarship dollars. (NT) -- No name, 11:15:12 09/07/24 Sat (syn-104-230-255-036.res.spectrum.com/104.230.255.36) Let's be real. For about 95% of the contestants, the cost to compete was never worth the ROI. That may have played a role for the girls with no pageant experience, but that certainly wasn't the case for the "pageant girls" especially when the same girls will pay thousands to compete at State USA with zero dollars unless they're in top 5. The reason participation is down is because of lack of promotion and absolute chaos (NT) -- No name, 12:35:24 09/07/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Exactly....this whole scholarship business was just a good PR line. The pageants success really depended upon having a lot of Suzanne Sugarbaker clones who just liked to get dressed up, compete, and collect crowns. And there is certainly no harm in that. It's just that there are very few Suzanne Sugarbaker's left. The world has become a different place. (NT) -- No name, 14:11:54 09/07/24 Sat (syn-065-188-072-049.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.49)

Subject: HOla! Just back from a very long vacation with my entire family spending a few weeks in Spain and Portugal. Saved for many years to go and it was worth it. But now I am back and reading such nonsense here again. I understand Glenn has his band of minions here posting stuff to create chaos and distrust but for those with a brain let's discuss: 1) It is no one's business where anyone "gets their money." Why do you think you are entitled to know how much money someone has? Or the source of someone's net worth? So immature. 2)Lawyers bring motions instead of producing documents when they think there is a legal argument to make on relevancy, immateriality, confidentiality etc. I listened to the hearing and Straub did not testify. if he could withstand a perjury charge by telling the truth uder oath one would assume he would have testified but he didn't so people can draw their own conclusions. There was reference to a deposition by his controller who stated under oath
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:02:23 09/04/24 Wed (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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that there WAS NO AUDIT DONE AND THEREFORE NO FINDING OF ANY MISDEEDS MUCH LEFT MISUE OR MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS BY ROBIN. That FACT in Evidence would make Straub's request for financial information irrelevant as that claim has not been proven. Straub has the burden of proof and he failed therefore documents related to that claim arguably would be immaterial as there is nothing for them to relate to. Robin is therefore within her rights to object to having to produce irrelevant material. Straub had to prove his claims and he failed to do so and in fact his top financial officer disputes his claim. Understand how this works? (NT) -- No name, 16:08:08 09/04/24 Wed (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) 3) Ask yourself why this upstanding, transparent businessman would not take the stand to prove his case? He brought the allegations yet he puts on the stand his "lawyer" who claimed with a straight face that he could not produce the meta data for the operating agreement they claim proves ownership because his laptop was stolen in Ecuador. That is the digital version of my dog ate my homework, right? Police in Ecuador report filed? No evidence-contemporary or after the fact- of that. Insurance claim filed? No evidence of that presented. But lawyers in Florida have to keep all documents related to LLC's or corporations etc for 7 years by law as well as under the code of ethics. So unless he does not have a network and only one laptop he has violated both the legal and ethical requirements of preservation of documents. (NT) -- No name, 16:18:56 09/04/24 Wed (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) 4) This is a for profit company. Why do you think you are entitled to demand things from Robin including her financials? This is not a not for profit where you can ask for its tax returns. If you gave money you got something for it. A ticket, a program book, a license to operate. Did you donate to the scholarship fund? Just trying to understand why you think you can demand things of her and when she runs her business her way you bitch and moan. There are lots of organizations who would love your time and money. Go there. Sorry, don't mean to be harsh but the sense of entitlement on this board is out of whack. Just FYI. This is not the old MAO. Any committees or processes that that old board had in place do not carry forward here unless Robin decides to create something anew that is similar. (NT) -- No name, 16:23:16 09/04/24 Wed (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) 5) Now I looked at the things posted here and showed them to a couple of actual lawyers. Their questions to me were the same. How does a lawyer's email to another lawyer make it onto an anonymous message board unless it was "leaked" you know, given to someone outside the intended recipients to post here. That evidences the fact that Straub's team is using this board and all of you for its disinformation campaign. Maybe there are only a few people posting here using different IPs or VPNs. But understand that if a subpoena is issued you can run but you cannot hide. 6) I hope what ever disagreement or dislike you have for Robin does not blind you to the threat that in my opinion ownership by someone like Straub poses to the women who enter this program and to its legacy. I for one will let the evidence speak and not play the telephone game nor allow people who have their own agenda color the information. The truth will set you free. (NT) -- No name, 16:28:02 09/04/24 Wed (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) What email from one attorney to another are you even talking about? I don't recall seeing anything like that. What has been posted is information publicly available on the clerk of courts site. If I'm overlooking some privileged information that got posted, please refresh my memory (NT) -- No name, 14:29:22 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Is it cold over in Germany this time of year? I know it’s getting late (NT) -- No name, 16:30:01 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.240.154) never been to Germany. Will put it on our bucket list. (NT) -- No name, 11:18:41 09/07/24 Sat (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)

Subject: Why don't they give the National Teen winner the same full round crown MA gets-the Teen crown looks like a hyped-up version of what you would get at State
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:47:05 09/07/24 Sat (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: OK If Robin says she has $10M-where did it come from?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:20:40 09/01/24 Sun (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) Certainly not from LCH!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I would like to know, also. (NT) -- No name, 14:52:09 09/02/24 Mon (NoHost/167.172.237.126) Could this be another one of her lies? (NT) -- No name, 00:19:02 09/03/24 Tue (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) In the early days, Robin frequently talked about having enough money to run MAO for another hundred years. What is clearer now is that Robin wants to only use MAO as her cash cow, spending only $100 of her own money (NT) -- No name, 20:34:41 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.241.217) The question is where does she plan on getting the money for the pageant on the dates she just set and released? (NT) -- No name, 21:12:38 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.71.142) This is the stupidest summary I've ever read. MAO will NEVER be a cash cow. It's not a business model that will do anything but break even, at least for the foreseeable future. This is not at all what she meant when she said MAO would have enough money for 100 years.. She was referring to having 'ol Glenn as the financier/banker and the $100 was to transfer the assets. I've done that before with a company asset transfer. Go take a business class and touch grass. (NT) -- No name, 21:14:54 09/03/24 Tue (91.sub-174-224-196.myvzw.com/174.224.196.91) Don’t shout at us. It didn’t take us 10 years to obtain an undergraduate degree. (NT) -- No name, 22:23:07 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.240.245) This is the stupidest reply I have ever heard. No professional leader with a business sense would ever discuss how much money they have to operate the business who isn't truly the owner. If you took a business class, you'd learn that when all your debt was paid, you then broke even. Any company can be profitable but what is done with that profit can be your downfall. Regardless what team you are batting for, the pain of going from Nonprofit to profit for those long haulers in this beautiful brand, is at the consumers expense to fuel the organization. Therefore, we are all paying the salaries and pageant expenses in a debt free organization. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:09 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/203.23.178.77) Has a forensic audit ever been done on her finances? (NT) -- No name, 03:53:46 09/04/24 Wed (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) We don't even need to stress over what she says. She doesn't own it. Maybe she managed to dig up millions from another one of her victims but it won't matter (NT) -- No name, 10:58:27 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/108.165.106.71) Well I'm sure the ugly swimsuits and crap they unveiled last week will bring in LOTS of money!! I mean seriously, that merch is cringy. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:02 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) I love it all minus the swimsuits (NT) -- No name, 11:45:03 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.166) OMG i just went and looked at it. It's awful. It doesnt even look like the brand much less something someone would be proud to own. Love the vintage but everything else looks cheap and unrelated. I would really love to hear from contestants on this board more cause they need to really understand what they are signing themselves up for. (NT) -- No name, 13:10:23 09/04/24 Wed (ec2-15-160-176-47.eu-south-1.compute.amazonaws.com/15.160.176.47) Designs looks like a fourth of July at old navy to me. Where's the MAO logo and pageant design??? (NT) -- No name, 14:30:43 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.203.177) I think there has been a purposeful move away - and I don't think it's a good thing. Seriously, "Miss America Social Club"? "American Queen" with some ugly sketch? And the swimsuits are just so bad - like the factory making all the other stuff had them leftover and offered them for 50 cents a piece. And I don't even know what to say about the Mu Alpha Sigma stuff - remember the call where Robin didn't even know what they meant?? Maybe she should focus less on creating ugly swimsuits and more on gathering the requested documents for court. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:36 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Bring back the Ada Duckett "supersuits"-anyone remember those? (NT) -- No name, 02:34:50 09/07/24 Sat (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200)

Subject: Miss PA Drama on Podcast
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:07:46 08/15/24 Thu (mobile-166-196-103-094.mycingular.net/166.196.103.94) Does anyone have the link to this? Apparently Robyn Kassgerji was on a podcast speaking about her situation and the restraining order but I’m not sure what it’s called. Does anyone have the podcast name or a link to it? I’m hoping she explains more in depth what the situation actually was. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think she did a pretty good job explaining it in those news articles. But anyway, I don't know the name of the podcast. Does the bully still hold a local title? (NT) -- No name, 23:09:42 08/15/24 Thu (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Robin & Ryan will try to force you to buy a dress from Henri’s; will insist states give them power of attorney and mislead us all in countless subjects, but the WILL NOT do anything about this? Amazing leadership (NT) -- No name, 10:41:49 08/16/24 Fri (NoHost/190.81.47.202) Don’t worry… rumor has it that there is going to be a lawsuit against the Miss PA org and a separate one against MAO and Robin as a whole dropping within the next month or so. They’ve been working and waiting on the Robin/Straub/MAO suit before serving papers, but seeing as that is going to take awhile I think they’re going to be serving papers soon. Robyn was supposed to talk to the Today Show the day after the Trump assassination attempt, but everything got pushed. So not sure if there will be more media before things are actually filed or not. (NT) -- No name, 23:04:11 08/25/24 Sun (NoHost/74.118.138.198) Yes bully still has local title with the Pa state board fully behind her and is still threatening girls about speaking out (NT) -- No name, 23:40:04 08/16/24 Fri (mobile-166-196-103-094.mycingular.net/166.196.103.94) Is she competing again? (NT) -- No name, 14:35:24 08/18/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Yes. She’s only 24 or 25. She’s still repping her Wilkes-Barre/Scranton title and will not compete for another title until PA locals begin. She will probably stick with the same local whose directors testified for her in court she would never bully anyone. (NT) -- No name, 19:00:20 08/19/24 Mon (NoHost/193.106.248.130) She made a recent appearance at the Pittston Tomato Festival Parade. It is absolutely sickening that she is out there still wearing her local crown and sash. Also very disappointed in the Miss Northeastern PA who posing for a picture with this bully. I mean are you kidding me, why would you want to be photographed with her showing her support? (NT) -- No name, 12:25:57 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.218.108) Tell Miss Northeastern PA to her face how disappointed you are regarding her posing for a picture with the bully (NT) -- No name, 12:38:53 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/98.39.54.124) I would have no problem at all telling any Miss PA Local Titleholder who supports Victoria that posing for pictures with her shows that you Support Bullying in MAO, which is exactly what this is. Please show me any evidence that she is innocent of the accusations that a court ruled she is responsible for and I will drop all of this. (NT) -- No name, 12:57:41 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.218.108) Look, I agree the situation is terrible but it’s entirely possible the other titleholders are scared of her and don’t want to be her next victim so it’s easier to just pose for the picture and try not to draw her wrath. (NT) -- No name, 21:29:08 08/26/24 Mon (c-67-176-201-27.hsd1.il.comcast.net/67.176.201.27) I checked Miss Northeastern PA facebook page and did not see a picture of that... Where is a picture of this? (NT) -- No name, 15:29:09 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/98.39.54.124) It is on the Miss Northeastern PA Facebook Page, the post was made 3 days ago, if you are on the page it is the 2nd post in the timeline. I would post a link but don't want the entire post here to get deleted. (NT) -- No name, 21:01:45 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.218.108) "Posing with bully" -- No name, 22:12:13 08/21/24 Wed (c-73-175-247-215.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/73.175.247.215) I think it's also bullying to label someone, like Miss Northeastern PA, as a supporter of her actions. You are not in the position these women are in. No where in the post did it say "I support Victoria and everything she has done". You are jumping to conclusions and forcing a reputation upon someone. It is a photo of two title holders at the same event. Instead of calling someone out for "supporting a bully", maybe think before posting anonymously online bullying someone else. (NT) -- No name, 22:17:25 08/21/24 Wed (c-73-175-247-215.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/73.175.247.215) When you are in a public space and you represent an entity, you keep your opinions to yourself and do what people expect you to do. It's the real world; you'll be photographed with many people you do not like or support. Who would look like the bitch if someone was snubbed? It's not a good look for the organization to have public inner conflict. You smile and bear it. (NT) -- No name, 14:32:31 08/22/24 Thu (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Meh, I don't know about that. You are representing the organization and you're also representing yourself. Let's say for a second that there was a killer there. Do you just grin and bear it? Or do you stand up for your values and the values of the organization which are totally counter to any hypothetical killer. The same should go for bullying (NT) -- No name, 21:02:42 08/22/24 Thu (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Post all of that on Miss Northeastern PA Facebook page (NT) -- No name, 22:43:32 08/22/24 Thu (NoHost/98.39.54.124) I worked in PR for Procter & Gamble for 30 years. There were products over the years I had ethical dilemmas about, but I invested so much time and effort in my tenure at the company, and knew how fruitful my retirement would be, I was unwilling to start all over again elsewhere. That new company may also have a few ethical issues I am critical of. How many times must I switch jobs in order to find that perfect company that does nothing wrong? (NT) -- No name, 12:25:00 08/23/24 Fri (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) I hear that. My company is questionable, submitted tickets to compliance and the appropriate avenues. They did nothing. So, I do my work because I want the 401K match and my stock. So I’m not pushing further. (NT) -- No name, 19:02:34 08/29/24 Thu (pool-173-79-116-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.116.75) It's intolerable. We are not talking about the behaviors like drama and backbiting. This is something that was found in court to have merit. (NT) -- No name, 00:29:43 08/17/24 Sat (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) The podcast is called Voice For Victims and is available wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube (NT) -- No name, 09:23:41 08/17/24 Sat (NoHost/128.14.207.6) Thank you (NT) -- No name, 18:31:12 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/12.188.169.2) Why hasnt the bully been removed (NT) -- No name, 14:07:59 08/18/24 Sun (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Because Miss PA is corrupt and their director is a bully herself. Just ask why her state teen director quit. Or the board members have changed. If she removed the bully that’s she’s been protecting after countless reports of bullying and harassment from way before the restraining order, she’d be a hypocrite for not removing herself too. (NT) -- No name, 15:38:22 08/19/24 Mon (NoHost/103.101.202.120) Both should go How long has she been the DR of Pennsylvania? She should be ashamed of herself (NT) -- No name, 03:16:45 08/20/24 Tue (255.sub-174-193-193.myvzw.com/174.193.193.255) Or why 2 locals left in 2020 because of unethical behavior. The PA director has all of the locals sign POAs for their bank accounts, wasn't paying out scholarships and still threatens contestants that she won't pay their scholarship if they resign or don't listen to every word she says. (NT) -- No name, 07:19:18 08/20/24 Tue (NoHost/91.245.252.47) Wasn't there a teen director in a southern state that demanded all the girls personal social media accounts and passwords? We've seen this type of behavior before unfortunately and it needs to go! I'm sure the bully teen director will complain and get this post taken down! (NT) -- No name, 14:53:22 08/22/24 Thu (NoHost/37.120.143.86) It's so outrageous that this young lady is still holding a title. When does she finally give up her crown?? (NT) -- No name, 11:58:31 08/21/24 Wed (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The Miss NEPA Scholarship Organization should be holding their MAO Local Pageant I think either late October or November, but from what has been said earlier, The Bully plans to re-compete at that local to earn a 2025 Local Title to qualify for next year's State Competition. This young lady literally has no shame what so ever for the things she has done. Since MAO and Miss PA still to date have chosen not to take action, I am sure she feels completely untouchable at this point. My message to any young women who is thinking about competing at Miss NEPA this year, if The Bully is allowed to compete, then don't show up. Maybe then and only then will the Miss PA Leadership listen and finally end this. (NT) -- No name, 15:16:59 08/21/24 Wed (c-69-141-204-190.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/69.141.204.190) I think it’s extremely telling that so many of the other young women are afraid to come forward because the State ED, has threatened to take their scholarships from them if they do. These women are so afraid of their Director that they would rather be receiving death threats and physically harmed by another contestant then speak out. How does the ED treat these girls that they’re so scared of her? That’s extremely disappointing. (NT) -- No name, 19:45:19 08/21/24 Wed (139.68.243.42.hwccustomers.com/139.68.243.42) They're young and easily influenced when someone tells them they'll get in trouble if they come forward or they will lose their crown or something. But where are their parents???!?!?! Why are they not protecting their daughters and now allowing them to be intimidated? (NT) -- No name, 11:53:06 08/22/24 Thu (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I met Robyn at an event a few weeks ago. She was so sweet! My daughter and her friend who are competing in MAO went over to say hi and ask how she was doing, but after a bit basically said, “As a heads up, I wouldn’t post any pictures that include me. I wouldn’t want anything I’m doing or the lawsuits I’m filing to have any effect on how your competitions go. I’m more than happy to help you in anyway I can, just please be careful if you take pictures with me because I don’t want MAO seeing it and think that you are going against their warning to stay away from me and have it hurt you or your chances” Then she proceeded to help my daughter with her hair and makeup for the event and she gave her a bunch of info on where to get the best second hand pageant clothes and the least expensive jewelry. Robyn seemed really sweet and genuine and just really wanting to help out everyone there. I really hope all works out well for her and some sort of justice gets served! (NT) -- No name, 12:25:07 08/23/24 Fri (96-70-248-201-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.70.248.201) Can you all just stop praising Robyn already? Boo hoo she got some text messages, who cares? She probably deserved it. She needs to just shut up and give up already. At this point all she is doing is playing the victim and disparaging MAO. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:45 08/24/24 Sat (173-230-133-106.ip.linodeusercontent.com/173.230.133.106) So, who is the victim here? (NT) -- No name, 21:52:06 08/24/24 Sat (NoHost/98.39.54.124) Please tell me you are not being serious? So you are worried about hurting poor MAO's name then someone receiving death threats? No wonder why bullying at Miss PA is an issue when there are people like you in this world protecting bullying. (NT) -- No name, 09:09:41 08/25/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.218.108) Wow… I actually have no words. Saying someone deserved to be threaded or assaulted??? Just wow. (NT) -- No name, 22:57:22 08/25/24 Sun (NoHost/73.214.30.192) I bet the person who said that she deserves to be bullied is the bully (NT) -- No name, 15:46:54 08/29/24 Thu (38.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.38) No, bitch ass I will not drop it. How's about you get your whiny spoiled rotten idiot butt off this board? It's people like you who killed this pageant, not people like Robyn (NT) -- No name, 01:49:35 08/26/24 Mon (c-50-170-176-164.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.170.176.164) Arguments like this could cause women to not want to compete (NT) -- No name, 14:23:52 08/26/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Oh please. No one is sitting out there saying "well golly gee, the first poster blamed the victim of a serious murder threat and the second poster told them off. Wow, that second poster was out of line. I don't want to compete because I should be allowed to blame the victim of any crime I want without someone coming back at me!" (NT) -- No name, 11:56:18 08/31/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Are you going to tear out her hair & slap her as well in addition to your comment? (NT) -- No name, 16:59:54 08/26/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) The poster got what they deserved. If you don't like it, that's a YOU problem (NT) -- No name, 12:01:58 08/31/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) What a mess (NT) -- No name, 15:34:06 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/12.233.34.186) So apparently Victoria is telling a lot of girls that she’s planning on pressing charges against Robyn. Has anyone else heard this? If so, does anyone know what kind of charges she would be able to press against the victim who a judge ruled needed a restraining order? (NT) -- No name, 23:16:10 09/05/24 Thu (pool-108-28-22-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.28.22.97) sorry but Pa needs an overhaul from top to bottom (NT) -- No name, 05:35:55 09/06/24 Fri (50-32-55-45.vng01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net/50.32.55.45) Who would take over? Autumn and Judy run Volunteer PA now. Dawn and Charlie support the bully and testified on her behalf. Reji, Tristalyn, and Bobi are all afraid to speak up in fear that their local titleholders will get in trouble. The butler ladies could maybe do it. But at this point everyone is supporting the abuser by not speaking up and saying anything. The Miss Pa org is going to just collapse if this lawsuit goes through. Robyn will completely destroy the organization and everyone in it if she’s successful. (NT) -- No name, 18:25:38 09/06/24 Fri (ec2-18-212-37-70.compute-1.amazonaws.com/18.212.37.70) Oh the drama. No, Robyn will NOT "completely destroy the organization and everyone in it." The organization will destroy ITSELF and THEMSELVES if the allegations are true. Let's not shame the victim as if it's her fault the organization gets what's coming to it for being so insanely incompetent (NT) -- No name, 02:06:24 09/07/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Has Robyn filed her suit yet? I'm eager to read (NT) -- No name, 14:49:12 09/06/24 Fri (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Not yet. I spoke to her yesterday, my daughter is also a victim of Victoria and previously filed a grievance to the PA org about her. Robyn and her team are working to pull everything together to prove Miss PA knew about the bullying for years before it got to the point of needing a restraining order. They just want everything lined up before officially filing. (NT) -- No name, 18:19:03 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/107.123.17.114) Keep us posted! (NT) -- No name, 02:07:18 09/07/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82)

Subject: MAO Miss Delegates: List #1: In State Competition Order for Evening Gown, OSQ and Fitness Preliminaries; List #2: In Lottery Number Order for Interview and Talent Competitions; Age is as of their respective state competition dates; Talents and Lottery Number Pulled from https://lottery.missamerica.org/miss
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:26:37 09/06/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) List 1: 1. Alabama (Abbi Stockard; Age 21; Cystic Fibrosis; You Say, Contemporary Dance) 2. Alaska (Jordan Naylor; Age 26; Heart Health; Little Party Never Killed Nobody, Ballroom Dance) 3. Arizona (Shailey Ringenbach; Age 20; Share the Love Pet Therapy; If You’re Reading This, Lyrical Dance) 4. Arkansas (Camille Cathey; Age 22; Volunteerism; If I Had My Way, Vocal Performer) 5. California (Kimberly Vernon; Age 27; Arts for All; Le Jazz Hot, Jazz Dance) 6. Colorado (Alexandra Lotko; Age 26; It’s Okay Not to be Okay; My Funny Valentine, Vocal) 7. Connecticut (Monica Fenwick; Age 24?; Communication is Key; Don’t Stop Me Now, Flute) 8. Delaware (Nova Rae Gaffney; Age 24; Domestic Violence Awareness; Carmen, Classical Ballet en Pointe) 9. District of Columbia (Katie Ann Powell; Age 26?; Full Confidence Ahead; Baroque Flamenco, Harp) 10. Florida (Casana Fink; Age 25; Organ Donation; Rescue, Lyrical Dance) 11. Georgia (Ludwig Louizaire; Age 26; Education for Every Student; Home, Broadway Vocal Performer) 12. Hawaii (Hayley Cheyney-Kane; Age 26; Preventative Medicine; Aloha Wau la oe, Vocal / Hula combo) 13. Idaho (Madison Andreason; Age 21; Get Up and Get Out; What I was Made For, Vocal Performer) 14. Illinois (Breana Bagley; Age 26; Defying Pancreatic and Rare Diseases; A New Day Has Come, Lyrical Dance) 15. Indiana (Kaylyn Melham; Age 23; Change Through Theatre; Don’t Forget Me, Vocal Performer) 16. Iowa (Abigaille Batu-Tiako; Age 21; The United Voices; The Joke, Vocal Performer) 17. Kansas (Alexis Smith; Age 25; Respect Reclaimed; The Auctioneer, Ventriloquism) 18. Kentucky (Chapel Tinius; Age 24; Veteran’s Awareness & Appreciation; Devil Went Down to Georgia; Czardas; My Old Kentucky Home; Smoke on the Water; Orange Blossome Special, Fiddle Medley) 19. Louisiana (Olivia Grace George; Age 20; Education is Key; Bossa Nova Baby, Jazz Dance) 20. Maine (Jennie Daley; Age 28; Dress Like an Engineer; HerStory) 21. Maryland (Bridget O’Brien; Age 22?; Boomerang; Don’t Rain on my Parade, Vocal Performance) 22. Massachusetts (Kiersten Khoury; Age 23; Check the Chicas; FightSong, HerStory) 23. Michigan (Jenae Lodewyk; Age 24?; Women in the Workplace; HerStory) 24. Minnesota (Emily Schumacher; Age 24; Heart Health; Proud Mary / River Deep, Tap Dance) 25. Mississippi (Becky Williams; Age 22; Make a Move; Move You’re Steppin on My Heart, Jazz Dance) 26. Missouri (Ashley Berry; Age 20; Media Smart; Eleanor Rigby, Contemporary Ballet en Pointe) 27. Montana (Kaylee Wolfensberger; Age 20?; Healing Harmonies; Great Balls of Fire, Piano) 28. Nebraska (Raechel Warren; Age 28; Passion to Purpose; Must Go On, Roller Skating) 29. Nevada (Karrina Ferris; Age 22?; Inform to Reform; You Will Be Found, Lyrical Dance) 30. New Hampshire (Emily Spencer; Age 23; Inspiring Inclusivity; One Moment in Time, Lyrical Dance) 31. New Jersey (Elizabeth Mendel; Age 22; IMAGE is Everywhere; It’s All Coming Back to Me, Lyrical Dance) 32. New Mexico (Emille-Marie Enriquez; Age ?; The Apricot Ribbon Campaign; El Son De La Negra, Folkloric Dance) 33. New York (Abigail Quammen; Age 24; Literacy; My Way, Vocal Performance) 34. North Carolina (Carrie Everett; Age 20; Equity to Build Community; The Impossible Dream, Vocal Performance) 35. North Dakota (Sophia Richards; Age 23; BIOgirls; La Vie En Rose, Vocal Performance) 36. Ohio (Stephanie Finoti; Age 21; Preparing Young Women for STEM; Kitri Act III variation from Don Quixote, Classical Ballet en Pointe) 37. Oklahoma (Lauren Frost; Age 24; Adoption – Oklahoma’s Option; Hound Dog, Clogging) 38. Oregon (Abigail Hoppe; Age 25; Making Type 1 Diabetes feel like Type None; Let’s Get Loud, Latin Ballroom Dance) 39. Pennsylvania (Page Weinstein; Age 26; Beauty for All; Thunderstruck, Dance Twirl) 40. Puerto Rico (Wilma Victoria Richiez; Age?; Access Education and Essential Resources; HerStory) 41. Rhode Island (Ali Hornung; Age 24; Glimmer of Hope; Legally Blonde, Vocal Performance) 42. South Carolina (Davis Walsh; Age 23; Guiding Youth with Incarcerated Parents; Ain’t No Sunshine, Vocal Performance) 43. South Dakota (Joelle Simpson; Age 20; Nurturing Nature; Swan Lake Harp Cadenza, Harp) 44. Tennessee (Carley Vogel; Age 23?; Organ Donation; Climb Every Mountain, Vocal Performance) 45. Texas (Annette Addo-Yobo; Age 25?; Autism Awareness; Autism SPEAKS, Slam Poetry) 46. Utah (Paris Matthews; Age 26; The Power of Play; All That Jazz, Jazz Dance) 47. Vermont (Meara Seery; Age 24; Green for Good; Seven Nation Army, Vocal Performance) 48. Virginia (Carlehr Swanson; Age 25?; Get Here, Piano and Vocal Performance) 49. Washington (Hermona Girmay; Age 23; SheCan; Supporting Women’s Education; My Days, Vocal Performance) 50. West Virginia (Jennifer Reuther; Age ; Wellness Across West Virginia; Jazz Dance) 51. Wisconsin (Mandi Genord; Age 22; Movement Matters; You Don’t Own Me, Contemporary Jazz Dance) 52. Wyoming (Baylee Drewry; Age 20; Supporting Girls and Women in Sports; Breath and Life, HerStory) List 2: 1. Kansas, Alexis Smith 2. Kentucky, Chapel Tinius 3. North Dakota, Sophia Richards 4. Delaware, Nova Gaffney 5. Maine, Jennie Daley 6. Nebraska, Raechel Warren 7. Hawaii, Hayley Cheyney Kāne 8. Arkansas, Camille Cathey 9. Oregon, Abigail Hoppe 10. Connecticut, Monica Fenwick 11. Washington, Hermona Girmay 12. Maryland, Bridget O'Brien 13. Rhode Island, Ali Hornung 14. West Virginia, Jennifer Reuther 15. Wyoming, Baylee Drewry 16. New Jersey, Elizabeth Mendel 17. North Carolina, Carrie Everett 18. Arizona, Shailey Ringenbach 19. Louisiana, Olivia Grace George 20. Tennessee, Carley Vogel 21. Kaylee Wolfensberger 22. District of Columbia, Katie Ann Powell 23. Michigan, Jenae Lodewyk 24. Mississippi, Becky Williams 25. Massachusetts, Kiersten Khoury 26. Alaska, Jordan Naylor 27. Colorado, Alexandra Lotko 28. Ohio, Stephanie Finoti 29. Florida, Casana Fink 30. Vermont, Meara Seery 31. Virgina, Carlehr Swanson 32. Utah, Paris Matthews 33. New Mexico, Emille-Marie Enriquez 34. Georgia, Ludwidg Louizaire 35. Puerto Rico, Wilma Victoria Richiez Mateo 36. Alabama, Abbie Stockard 37. Oklahoma, Lauren Frost 38. South Dakota, Joelle Simpson 39. Indiana, Kalyn Melham 40. Idaho, Madison Andreason 41. New Hampshire, Emily Spencer 42. South Carolina, Davis Wash 43. California, Kimberly Vernon 44. Missouri, Ashley Berry 45. Wisconsin, Mandi Genord 46. Pennsylvania, Page Weinstein 47. Iowa, Abigaille Batu-Tiako 48. New York, Abigail Quammen 49. Nevada, Karrina Ferris 50. Minnesota, Emily Schumacher 51. Texas, Annette Addo-Yobo 52. Illinois, Breana Bagley [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Age AND CSI are from their respective state pageant dates. (NT) -- No name, 19:37:16 09/06/24 Fri (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) As author of the post, I can confirm that with respect to CSIs, those were reviewed and updated since crowning, but being human and not a bot, it is entirely possible that a delegate changed hers and I missed it. A more helpful (and accurate) comment would be to provide any information that would help to update the list - that would be most appreciated. (NT) -- No name, 21:50:46 09/06/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184)

Subject: Has anyone heard that the Miss America / Miss America's Teen Contestant Lottery is TODAY (4 September 2024)?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:34:46 09/04/24 Wed (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thanks. I sure hope it's not the same way it was in January. That was painful. (NT) -- No name, 15:50:22 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/165.22.239.83) The Teen Lottery would be today. Sadly, no District of Columbia's Teen. Miss Lottery will be tomorrow, 5 September. (NT) -- No name, 20:24:42 09/04/24 Wed (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) ....and they could not do the obvious....ask the 2023 DC Teen first runner-up to go to nationals providing she still meets age/residency requirements. Why not if not? -- At least then DC is represented and not worry to rush a quickie contest now., 20:45:29 09/04/24 Wed (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) They didn’t have a 2023 teen pageant to have a 1RU. They haven’t had a teen pageant in a few years. Doesn’t make sense with all the performing arts school in DC they can’t find a teen who wants to do her talent? (NT) -- No name, 16:12:10 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.76.235) I love that you can see all talent song selections for Miss and Teen on each lottery page. (NT) -- No name, 22:19:10 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.71.142)

Subject: Does anyone know if the dates for Miss America have been put in hold??
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:35:32 09/04/24 Wed (99-187-158-0.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/99.187.158.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That’s the rumor that the dates will change! Very unorganized and no leadership! How can you plan?? (NT) -- No name, 09:45:47 09/05/24 Thu (99-187-158-0.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/99.187.158.0) Rumor from who? (NT) -- No name, 10:55:20 09/05/24 Thu (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) Most longtime attendees are skipping January. Too much uncertainty & drama. Save your money (NT) -- No name, 16:39:52 09/05/24 Thu (198.55.47.66.xchangetele.com/198.55.47.66) Says who? All of our regular gang is going (NT) -- No name, 16:41:32 09/05/24 Thu (13.indianapolis-10rh16rt-11rh15rt.in.dial-access.att.net/12.74.54.13) I'll bet you would have still been playing Shuffleboard as the Titantic went down. Bless your heart! (NT) -- No name, 08:39:28 09/06/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-036.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.36) Wow… what a mean spirited and snarky comment shaking my head in disbelief (NT) -- No name, 09:35:07 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/98.39.54.124)

Subject: Miss USA 2025 state pageant dates
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:56:23 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/180.190.229.177) The last Miss USA held under a month ago, Vanbros is the first pageant license to announce the 2025 dates: March 9: Oklahoma March 23: Kansas April 6: Nebraska April 13: Arkansas May 11: Missouri May 25: Illinois [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Two more states announce their 2025 dates: Delaware (March 30) and Texas (May 3, Miss & May 4, Teen) (NT) -- No name, 04:40:30 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/180.190.63.82)

Subject: How many MAO locals have closed/stopped having pageants? My former home state of Michigan is down to 20 contestants when we used to have close to 30-40
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:30:35 08/30/24 Fri (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Our state stopped having locals about 2 years ago. Too hard to find fresh contestants and scholarship support. (NT) -- Linda, 08:01:06 08/31/24 Sat (c-73-191-114-245.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.191.114.245) ours is dropping. few locals, but now they crown multiple titles (NT) -- No name, 10:11:01 08/31/24 Sat (69-9-235-254-dynamic.midco.net/69.9.235.254) wouldn't it make more sense to have 100 girls pay $5, than for 5 girls to pay $100? MAO isn't understanding that raising all the costs turns girls away. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE AND FUN AGAIN SO GIRLS WANT TO DO IT (NT) -- IMO, 10:13:58 08/31/24 Sat (69-9-235-254-dynamic.midco.net/69.9.235.254) Interesting...my state is growing. We've added 2 Teen titles at 2 separate locals and are adding a new local in 2025. (NT) -- No name, 21:22:09 09/03/24 Tue (91.sub-174-224-196.myvzw.com/174.224.196.91) Which state is this? (NT) -- No name, 22:39:36 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/98.39.54.124) Same here, we just had a pageant with 24 contestants (NT) -- No name, 08:54:23 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.166) Alabama is growing. Has 40 contestants this past June. Looks like it will be 48 next June. New prelims added across the state. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:30 09/04/24 Wed (50.sub-174-218-62.myvzw.com/174.218.62.50) My state is loosing.... (NT) -- No name, 13:16:47 09/04/24 Wed (69-9-235-254-dynamic.midco.net/69.9.235.254) Texas is growing, albeit in the already saturated Dallas area. (NT) -- No name, 19:21:29 09/05/24 Thu (107-128-0-95.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/107.128.0.95) My state is not shrinking but it is also not growing. Each local gives away 2 to 5 miss titles each. When I first started, we had 34 local pageants, each crowning one winner. Now we hold steady about 21 to 24, but only 8 to 10 local pageants giving away multiple crowns. (NT) -- No name, 19:56:22 09/05/24 Thu (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) CT ha 5 at large contestants. (NT) -- No name, 20:46:40 09/05/24 Thu (c-73-142-196-158.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/73.142.196.158) Oregon relies on sweeper, virtual open & at large (NT) -- No name, 23:32:05 09/05/24 Thu (a172-224-243-13.source.akaquill.net/172.224.243.13) and 7 local programs...The oldest smallish counties create the most scholarships. (NT) -- No name, 00:47:06 09/06/24 Fri (NoHost/185.107.57.64)

Subject: Teen Lottery Link
Author: Anonymous [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:18:31 09/04/24 Wed (cbl-dhcp-74-023.machlink.com/69.49.74.23) Does anyone have the Teen Lottery link. The one that was emailed out doesn’t work - shocker. This would be the public link for spectators to follow along, not the contestant link. This is the one they shared: http://teenlottery.missamerica.org/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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They updated the link this morning. lottery.missamerica.org/teen (NT) -- No name, 19:49:57 09/04/24 Wed (67.sub-174-192-195.myvzw.com/174.192.195.67) Looks like it is the same -- lottery for interview/talent & state other for other (NT) -- No name, 21:26:42 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.116.96) Miss Lottery will be tomorrow, 5 September. (NT) -- No name, 20:22:13 09/04/24 Wed (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) ...and no one knows at what time this is to happen? Only the date? And can be seen on any website or social media service anywhere? -- Fan, 21:48:35 09/04/24 Wed (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99)

Subject: Kentucky’s Teen is gorgeous and talented. Calling top five now.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:18:53 09/04/24 Wed (h73.138.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.21.138.73) https://www.facebook.com/share/p/pHo1RLF2vMTh2Uan/?mibextid=WC7FNe [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: The theme of our local this year is "She's a Miracle." Our opening number is "Million Dollar Baby" by Ava Max, but I'm having a difficult time finding an appropriate closing number song. I just listened to Clay Aiken's "This is the Night" and while not quite what I'm looking for, really like it. Any other suggestions?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:45:30 08/30/24 Fri (184-100-144-50.lcrs.qwest.net/184.100.144.50) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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We crowned to “This Is No Ordinary Miracle” by Donna Summer. Upbeat, fun crowning song.. (NT) -- No name, 01:48:56 08/31/24 Sat (h73.138.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.21.138.73) Here’s the link. You’ll love the beat and the lyrics are perfect. Thanks me later. 🙂. . https://www.google.com/search?q=ordinary+miracle+summer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3a68c537,vid:zW4u3JsV7to,st:0 (NT) -- No name, 01:54:16 08/31/24 Sat (h73.138.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.21.138.73) What do you folks think of "This is the Night" by Clay Aiken as a closing number. To the poster that mentioned the Donna Summer song, I intend to use the end of that for crowning. (NT) -- No name, 18:24:09 09/04/24 Wed (184-100-144-50.lcrs.qwest.net/184.100.144.50)

Subject: From runner-up at Teen USA to not making the cut (repost with full info)
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:18:16 08/21/24 Wed (NoHost/124.6.179.23) What is happening in recent years with Miss Teen USA Top 5 delegates returning to Miss USA and not making the cut? In the last 10 years, there have been 4 Miss Teen USA Top 5 delegates that have made the cut at Miss USA: Sydnee Stottlemyre (4th RU @ Miss Teen USA 2011, Top 10 @ Miss USA 2016) Marley Stokes (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2016, Top 8 @ Miss USA 2021) Sydni Dion Bennett (3rd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2018, 3rd RU @ Miss USA 2021) Caitlyn Vogel (1st RU @ Miss Teen USA 2019, 1st RU @ Miss USA 2021) Kirby Elizabeth Self (1st RU @ Miss Teen USA 2018, Top 20 @ Miss USA 2023) Kaylee Brooke McCollum (3rd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2019, Top 20 @ Miss USA 2024) In the same time period, there have been 11 Miss Teen USA Top 5 delegates that have not made the cut at Miss USA. 2015: Brooke Fletcher (1st RU @ Miss Teen USA 2009) and Julia Dalton (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2008) 2016: Haley Sowers (4th RU @ Miss Teen USA 2010) 2017: Katie Coble (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2007) 2018: Tori Sizemore (1st RU @ Miss Teen USA 2013) 2019: Haley Holloway (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2013) 2020: Jane Axhoj (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2015) 2021: Sydney Robertson (2nd RU @ Miss Teen USA 2014, also Congeniality) 2024: Sydney Taylor (4th RU @ Miss Teen USA 2020) and Shayla Montgomery (1st RU @ Miss Teen USA 2020) However, there was no former Teen runner-up competed in Miss USA 2022. AFAIK, the following Teen USA Top 5 delegates from 2015-2022 could be still eligible for Miss USA following the removal of age restrictions and married individual would allow to compete, the new changes were former Teen winners are ineligible to compete in the state level once again. 2015: Melanie Mitchell Hill (1st RU), Hannah Faith Greene (3rd RU), Sophie Baird (4th RU) 2016: Emily Wakeman (1st RU), Erin Snow Roberts (3rd RU), Carissa Morrow (4th RU) 2017: Vanessa Matheson (1st RU), Alexis Smith (2nd RU), Paige Robertson (3rd RU), Jaanu Patel (4th RU) 2018: Chloe Zambrano (2nd RU), Kaaviya Sambasivam (4th RU) 2019: Erica Bonilla (2nd RU), Kalin Burt (4th RU) 2020: Shayla Jackson (2nd RU), Audrey Eckert (4th RU) 2021: Hannah Gilliard (1st RU), Landry Davis (2nd RU), Yvonne Burke (3rd RU) 2022: Jenna Beckstrom (1st RU), Cassidy Hill (2nd RU), Isabella Mosqueda (3rd RU), McKinley Farese (4th RU) With the Teen and Miss competitions are back on TV, is there even a point for Top 5 Teens to return to Miss USA? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Shayla Jackson had 4 rump roasts on both sides and black panty shapers under a brown see through gown. There was no way that porker was making the cut (NT) -- No name, 17:56:00 08/23/24 Fri (bwi-cc1.slicewireless.net/76.76.25.6) Unneeded comment (NT) -- No name, 18:29:33 08/23/24 Fri (NoHost/98.39.54.124) This a message board to comment. If you can't handle comments of constructive criticism then I suggest you go elsewhere. The primary evidence is clear, Shayla wore a black panty under a sheer brown dress that looked cheap and ridiculous. And in swimsuit both rump roasts were clearly visible. Have a good day in school learning critical thinking (NT) -- No name, 13:16:31 08/24/24 Sat (NoHost/108.147.92.4) Rump roast is not needed (NT) -- No name, 13:17:58 08/24/24 Sat (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Extreme weight gain on both sides 😉 (NT) -- No name, 13:29:50 08/24/24 Sat (NoHost/108.147.92.4) Sounds like someone (or someone's mom) from her teen class, still butt hurt over losing. (NT) -- No name, 01:04:49 08/25/24 Sun (NoHost/146.75.136.1) Teens going to miss after doing well at teen USA and not doing welll( placing) is nothing new, it has always been that way -- No name, 02:41:12 08/25/24 Sun (195.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.195) When did Shayla Jackson go to Miss USA? I checked her instagram and you people are being hateful towards her (NT) -- No name, 03:32:50 08/25/24 Sun (195.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.195) Shayla Montgomery just completed at Miss USA 2024! Teehee (NT) -- VE, 10:54:37 08/26/24 Mon (173-167-226-181-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/173.167.226.181) What an odd post all around. Different judges, different day (in these cases years). There is no winning secret. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:29 08/26/24 Mon (mail.ufsdata.com/207.67.42.11) And at least we never forget Ayzjiahna Wood, who was the 4th runner-up in Miss Teen USA 2021 and went on to win the Miss Teen Volunteer America 2024 title. (NT) -- No name, 20:24:05 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.186) Angelia Layton (Miss Utah 2014) was 3rd RU at Miss Teen USA in 2010 and did not make the cut at Miss. (NT) -- No name, 19:22:29 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Did anyone watch her season of survivor? (NT) -- COOKIES !, 17:41:00 09/04/24 Wed (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249)

Subject: Once again, Robin was supposed to produce multiple documents (I believe this was the FOURTH request) to Glenn's team by 09/02 and she did not. Instead, she filed a response basically refusing - saying Glenn has no right to the documents.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:42:55 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Blah, blah, blah... She's full of crap and clearly hiding something. Her argument that Glenn doesn't own Miss America and therefore has no right to the documents he's requesting is desperate at best. That argument alone assumes that a decision on ownership has already been decisioned. Hey, Robin - IT HASN'T!! She also contends a couple of times that "confidential" information has been leaked by Glenn and/or his team. Um Robin, NO ONE IS LEAKING ANYTHING!! Some of us happen to be following all of this closely because we're concerned about YOU. Decisions you've made, personal vendettas you have, punishing people you don't like, lying to us, making stupid decisions - then reversing them because you don't think things through, telling us we didn't hear you say something (sometimes multiple times)...THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. So no, no one is leaking confidential information - we're just paying attention - to the trial, the testimony, the filings...and you're not looking so good. Especially interesting is her refusal to produce financial documents relating to Miss America (account information, tax returns). Seems like that information might be of interest to the 52 state programs who are sending her money every time we turn around. Interesting to the volunteers who give their time and often money, to this program. Some transparency might be eye-opening. It will be interesting to see how the judge responds to her latest antics - it's a shame he can't just say he's had enough of her stalling and bullshit and make a ruling already. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You mean the pageant dates that were openly discussed at the last MA in January? I heard she is accusing him of leaking those dates knowing everyone already knew them internally lol (NT) -- No name, 12:14:06 09/04/24 Wed (172-233-14-141.ip.linodeusercontent.com/172.233.14.141) You all do know that Glenn doesn't testify in court because Robin went to the FBI (yes, not the police) three times and has a order of protection against him. She testified she didn't know what he might do to her. This is the Drama Queen we have leading our organization She is above it all Rules don't apply to her. MAO has never fallen deeper. She will see us end before she admits to doing anything wrong. (NT) -- No name, 14:18:28 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/50.202.56.35) How does one refuse a court order? -- Does she think rules don’t apply to her?, 14:26:30 09/04/24 Wed (fttu-216-41-241-45.btes.tv/216.41.241.45) I stopped watching it after hearing Glenn's attorney that testified cause I thought ruling was clear after that. Surprisingly this thing is still going and I am gonna start back watching it again to see how defying judge's orders are gonna go for her. lol She needs her own reality show (NT) -- No name, 15:01:00 09/04/24 Wed (152-44-46-81.us-sjo1.upcloud.host/152.44.46.81)

Subject: VP hopeful JD Vance picking on / embarrasing Miss SCTeenUSA, Caitlin Upton..no one bullies our girls (except us ❤️ )
Author: Leave Caitlin alone 💜 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:53:52 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.116.97) https://x.com/JDVance/status/1829256147225977310 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yeah....leave her alone, such as. We don't need no maps. We are not going back to the Iraq! (NT) -- No name, 10:59:35 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-044.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.44) Guess you, like Mr Vance, have no decency- https://www.rawstory.com/amp/jd-vance-women-2669104229-2669104229 (NT) -- No name, 11:20:09 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.116.92) That was not a slam towards Caitlin. She has long gotten over that incident. She also jokes about it herself now. (NT) -- No name, 11:35:48 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-044.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.44) Not according to her X post yesterday (NT) -- No name, 12:48:28 08/31/24 Sat (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) She has expressed her sadness and disappointment this is in the news again, and then closed her twitter account. (NT) -- No name, 16:32:59 08/31/24 Sat (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) So wouldn't think she "jokes about it herself now" You aren't as close to her as you are portraying. (NT) -- No name, 16:40:02 08/31/24 Sat (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) Of course she did. It's humiliating. She bummed an OSQ and it is forever on the internet. She wants to get over it, and then this jerk JDV brings it all back. And is completely unapologetic about it. How can anyone vote for this ticket??? They are awful to women. (NT) -- No name, 16:51:17 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/149.115.99.137) You pageant peeps are crazy enough. Leave politics out of the craziness (NT) -- No name, 11:39:22 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/172.58.255.187) Not sure it was politics driven - us "pageant peeps" continue to care about (or should) those harmed by the public. Who knows, Caitlin got over it - cuz the last bullying was 15 years ago ... now she has a whole new life & boom .. oh YOU are that dumbass from South Carolina... (NT) -- No name, 19:33:01 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.116.85) I was alarmed when Vance in an interview was told that she was suicidal from that experience, and now that "the answer" is back in the spotlight and reignited the humiliation she went through, he wouldn't even apologize. Just say "Sorry, it wasn't meant to cause harm, and I am sorry if it has caused any pain". But no. Double down on the nastiness. (NT) -- She's apparently MAGA, so I guess she's used to being put down by men in her circle., 04:12:19 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/149.115.99.137) You do remember that the man who brutally mocked her was Jimmy Kimmel, right? Not years later, but days. So well before she had time to recover and while she was still a teen. And if I am not mistaken he leans left. Your outrage is selective. (NT) -- No name, 08:09:59 08/31/24 Sat (c-73-192-6-183.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.192.6.183) So all you have is "whataboutism" from a comedian 17 yrs ago? You are on a pageant board, and ALL of us have flubbed OSQ, though probably not as bad as Caite Upton. She was viralled and became suicidal due to the publicity. Now the person running as Vice President brings this all back, and when told that it caused her suicidality he refused to even apologize and even had a smirk on his face. A clearly ugly misogynist. So stop with your whataboutisms, mmkay? (NT) -- No name, 16:44:44 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/149.115.99.137) Very disappointed in your choice of words, including "suicidality," which you just made up. But also "misogyny," which is a hatred of women. Do you actually think he would approve of a teenage boy not being able to answer the question? That he didn't like Caitlin's answer because he hates women? "Clearly ugly?" IMHO if your State doesn't allow abortions, then go to another State to get the procedure. Somebody will pay for it for you, but why wreck the Country because of your minor inconvenience. Carry on. (NT) -- No name, 17:01:43 08/31/24 Sat (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Suicidality is a word, genius. Not surprised you don't know that given that you took the time to chime in with a delusion that the idiot (oops, I mean MAGAt) ticket isn't woman-hating. But hey, go ahead and vote for an insurrectionist and rapist and his mysoginistic side kick under the guise of "saving the country." Freaking moron (NT) -- No name, 19:15:07 08/31/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Now you have gone to far!I'm not a political person at all. But calling someone an " Insurrectionist" without proof, is a serious accusation. This is liable and slanderous on your part. My goodness! (NT) -- No name, 23:16:11 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/91.90.123.213) The public shaming of others because they have a different political opinion is a form of persecution and demonstrates your intolerance. (NT) -- No name, 00:10:44 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.86) It actually demonstrates good sense, but thanks for playing (NT) -- No name, 01:22:08 09/01/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Trump is an insurrectionist. That is a fact (NT) -- No name, 01:21:34 09/01/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Great the political hijacker is back! (NT) -- No name, 01:29:36 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.86) This is why politics needs to kept out of the craziness (NT) -- No name, 23:21:05 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/98.39.54.124) The public shaming of others because they have a different political opinion is a form of persecution and demonstrates your intolerance. (NT) -- No name, 00:04:38 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.86) The post above is a duplicate post! Please ignore it! (NT) -- No name, 00:17:58 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.86) For the love of the world! Please just stop already with all the political nonsense! Ain't nobody got time for that! We all are too busy trying to pay our bills, now that a gallon of milk is over $5 and a loaf of bread is $4.65 and gas is over $4 a gallon. Rent is now over $3k for a 2 bedroom apartment. More and more restaurant's and major retailers had to close their doors because of the failing Economy. The homeless population has increased to levels never seen in America history. Most people"s utilities bill is half of their rent. Inflation keeps going up. These are all facts that most people are having to deal with! (NT) -- No name, 04:05:14 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/96.0.24.61) And they have nothing at all to do with politics? Tell me you're an airhead without telling me you're an airhead. I'm sure as hell better off now than I was 2017 - 2021 and so is the country. I shall vote accordingly (NT) -- No name, 11:20:17 09/01/24 Sun (ip52.ip-167-114-11.net/167.114.11.52) They everything to politics! That's HER JOB! She's the VP! she's been in office for almost 4 years! (NT) -- No name, 13:49:40 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.87) Tell me you are Whitebread Privilege without saying you're Whitebread Privilege! Some of us have to work for a living and live in the real world! (NT) -- No name, 14:00:00 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.87) So it's the party of Trump that's AGAINST white privilege? Really? Hypocrites, every single one of you idiots (NT) -- No name, 14:46:26 09/01/24 Sun (ip77.ip-198-50-155.net/198.50.155.77) Actually that would be you! You are the one saying it! (NT) -- No name, 16:04:31 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/96.0.24.106) What does that comment have to do with pageants (NT) -- No name, 18:24:47 09/02/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) You are aware that the Preside at the beginning of Every Year gives Congress a budget! In that little budget thing, it has taxes, loan rates,etc. ( airhead stuff like that)! The President is literally in charge of setting the rules of our Economy! (NT) -- No name, 15:41:41 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/96.0.24.106) *******Typo President. (NT) -- No name, 15:47:02 09/01/24 Sun* (NoHost/96.0.24.106) Oh dear. The President sets the rules for the FEDERAL budget, not the price of milk. There's a little thing called the stock market, a little thing called supply and demand, a little thing called labor force. The President does not set the "rules" (whatever that means) for anything. And while we're at it, that budget is set by Congress and the President together and has the been cause of multiple shut downs over the years when they couldn't agree. Ok? Now that we're done with Civics 101, can we get back to pageantry? (NT) -- No name, 23:25:34 09/01/24 Sun (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) Thank you so much for your intelligent response!!! As I have said, ignorance is a thing and it is an even bigger thing now that people can show their ignorance to the public by posting on blogs and groups. (NT) -- No name, 11:27:57 09/03/24 Tue (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) But wait I thought the issue was price gouging? (NT) -- No name, 18:20:06 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.110.99) And what does your comment have to do with pageants (NT) -- No name, 18:28:43 09/02/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) And what do your comments have to do with pageants? JDV literally brought pageantry into the political realm. It's silly of you to think we won't talk about it on a pageantry board. (NT) -- No name, 03:54:16 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/149.115.99.137) To the Poster wanting to stop this political nonsense. Will a 34 time convicted felony who never went to the grocery store or filled up a tank of gas in their life gonna solve your problems? (NT) -- No name, 12:45:54 09/01/24 Sun (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) Lol you are so funny! Please stop already, your privilege is showing! You think your 543 million Harris got your back! Lol! You go girl! (NT) -- No name, 13:46:15 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/37.120.143.87) What? (NT) -- No name, 14:47:11 09/01/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) What does this comment have to do with pageants (NT) -- No name, 18:33:44 09/02/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Cruel comment and no remorse. This man is not ready for prime time and should retreat to his grandparents basement. (NT) -- sonia, 13:04:21 09/01/24 Sun (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) Like the democrats hide in the basement , take our money and let the veterans homeless on the streets (NT) -- No name, 05:52:26 09/02/24 Mon (50-32-55-45.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net/50.32.55.45) if you are going to try to throw a political dagger, at least get your facts straight. Veteran homelessness has declined significantly under Biden. And nobody cares about your stupid MAGA opinions. (NT) -- sonia, 08:22:06 09/02/24 Mon (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) And their VP choice is a freak who gripes about anything trans, anti-LGBT, and can’t pick a decent eyeliner and thinks we don’t notice. Pathetic homophobe. (NT) -- No name, 19:03:28 09/03/24 Tue (pool-173-79-116-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.116.75) There are many responses to this post that have nothing to do with pageants… I can see why someone posted not to bring politics into the “so called” discussion… Messes everything up (NT) -- No name, 18:39:44 09/02/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Here is the real issue. If you are on a sinking boat and you have to decide between electrocution or a shark, how many women would Hannibal Lecter grab by the pu$$y while.my wife is breastfeeding my baby and I am in a porn star’s bedroom anf I cofafe… schmur… oranges… oranges… oranges. (NT) -- No name, 19:39:38 09/03/24 Tue (h73.138.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.21.138.73) Gross unnecessary comment (NT) -- No name, 19:49:33 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/98.39.54.124) But every word spoken by your candidate. 😏 (NT) -- No name, 20:31:39 09/03/24 Tue (h73.138.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.21.138.73) Harris/Waltz are liars and she now is a southerner with a heavy accent. (NT) -- No name, 05:41:44 09/04/24 Wed (50-32-55-45.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net/50.32.55.45) Somebody watches FOX. New talking point as y’all search for a way to make Trump seem tolerable (NT) -- No name, 09:30:24 09/04/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.240.228) I'd vote for a liar over a RAPIST any day of the week. And that goes for his Weird AF homophobic eye-liner wearing sidekick too (NT) -- No name, 11:16:20 09/04/24 Wed (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82)

Subject: Local Pageant Scholarships
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:45:46 09/02/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.71.142) What is the minimum scholarship amount that is supposed to be given at locals currently? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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In my state, it’s $500 to each winner. (NT) -- No name, 14:56:20 09/02/24 Mon (NoHost/107.115.187.148) That random fact is not actually helpful information. Is there a minimum local/state award mandated in each franchise agreement, or are award amounts at the discretion of each local/state BOD? (NT) -- No name, 13:04:48 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.59.79.212) According to you, how should the person have responded to this post? (NT) -- No name, 13:53:20 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/98.39.54.124) Sorry if I was unclear. It's a contractual requirement to award $500 to each local Miss title. Everything else is at the local director's discretion. (NT) -- No name, 14:08:38 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/51.89.225.174) unless you call it a festival title then you can give less (NT) -- No name, 09:14:40 09/04/24 Wed (69-9-235-254-dynamic.midco.net/69.9.235.254)

Subject: Anyone at Sweetheart?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:38:26 09/01/24 Sun (240.sub-174-244-23.myvzw.com/174.244.23.240) Wondered how last night went. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Was the contest in Hoopeston last night---or tonight---or tomorrow Monday night (labor day) as we only hear of people saying that Miss National Sweetheart is -- held over the Labor Day weekend--but which night is the finale competition show?, 20:04:04 09/01/24 Sun (NoHost/144.92.31.234) I think the finals are always held on Labor Day. (NT) -- No name, 20:43:59 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-188-072-022.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.22) Finals were streamed tonight, Sunday. Details and photos are available on their facebook page. (NT) -- No name, 21:01:40 09/01/24 Sun (syn-024-231-184-073.res.spectrum.com/24.231.184.73) Nevermind that laziness, just click into this message to see the final results from Hoopeston. -- Need we remind everyone here, not all readers here are Facebook members to log-in. OK?, 23:50:24 09/01/24 Sun (syn-097-095-094-190.res.spectrum.com/97.95.94.190) Any background on these young ladies? Have they competed at MAO? Were they Volunteer state runners up this past year? (NT) -- No name, 11:14:05 09/02/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I think every contestant came from Volunteer except Wisconsin and Indiana (NT) -- No name, 19:18:55 09/02/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.51.60) I miss the old Sweetheart (NT) -- No name, 13:04:30 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/38.90.135.249) right, when it was competitive (NT) -- No name, 15:48:28 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.239.166) Yeah not exciting when the same girl gets all prelims and then wins. (NT) -- No name, 17:14:03 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.51.16) What do you expect with less than 20 contestants.. (NT) -- No name, 21:10:42 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.71.142) Who judged Sweetheart (NT) -- No name, 17:48:35 09/03/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.240.131) Nicole Johnson was one of the judges. (NT) -- No name, 20:53:50 09/03/24 Tue (syn-192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150)

Subject: Which pageants are old-fashioned and don't give out scores?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:33:29 08/30/24 Fri (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) Every pageant should! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Because? (NT) -- No name, 06:41:08 08/31/24 Sat (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Bigger question, what pageants actually give scores? (NT) -- No name, 13:45:05 08/31/24 Sat (182.sub-174-209-33.myvzw.com/174.209.33.182) Nearly every pageant but USA and America. (NT) -- Not doing so, is dated and shows a lack of transparency., 14:43:42 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/107.116.79.67) Accountability (NT) -- No name, 16:14:42 08/31/24 Sat (73.sub-174-193-192.myvzw.com/174.193.192.73) Do you really beleive that your cn trust the scores that are given out? And what does it change? (NT) -- No name, 16:56:33 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/47.188.52.70) If they show them onscreen then everyone can see if they’re legitimate (NT) -- No name, 19:04:40 08/31/24 Sat (73.sub-174-193-192.myvzw.com/174.193.192.73) This makes sense! When an ice skater or gymnast performs a scord routine they receive a score that is visible to everyone! Ask yourself why is it being kept secret? For what purpose do pagent scores need to be kept secret? (NT) -- No name, 22:58:43 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/37.120.143.87) Posting on tv I completely agree with. But sending scores after the fact just can’t be trusted (NT) -- No name, 21:19:00 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/47.188.52.70) No they can’t (NT) -- No name, 15:40:13 09/03/24 Tue (73.sub-174-193-192.myvzw.com/174.193.192.73)

Subject: 8 Rules You Didn't Know Mrs. American Contestants Have to Follow (Exclusive)
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:33:00 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/12.233.34.186) The Mrs. America Pageant is currently underway and there are a few notable rules contestants must follow during the competition. After Heidi Stephens was officially crowned the new Mrs. American 2024 on Aug. 27, taking over the title from Hannah Neeleman, the competition continues with the Mrs. America pageant on Aug. 28. The Mrs. America Pageant, which includes Mrs. America, Mrs. American and Miss for America Strong Pageant divisions, was first established in 1938 and aims to “feature the most accomplished married and single women of America," according to the official website. Every year, 51 delegates from across the country are selected to compete for the coveted title and the winners of Mrs. America and Mrs. American will eventually go on to compete for the Mrs. World title. The 2021 Miss for America Strong winner and current judge Kayelin Tiggs spoke exclusively with PEOPLE about the rules for the pageant, noting that it’s important for contestants to “have a cause” that they are passionate about. “I think a woman who is passionate about what she does and can talk about it are the ones who will be able to connect with the judges,” she continues. “So a woman who's been able to say, ‘Here's what I do, here's why I do it, here's how I'm making the impact. And here's how the title will amplify that impact,’ I think are the ones who are able to really do well.” Since winning her title in 2021, Tiggs has been working on House Bill 30 in Ohio, which “would require every single correctional facility, jails, prisons, workhouses, to provide menstrual hygiene products to incarcerated women for free” and allow them “one shower a day” during their cycle, Tiggs tells PEOPLE. “My background is in behavioral neuroscience and I worked for the Air Force base,” she explains. “At the time, I had been working for the Naval Medical Research Unit doing research for about four and a half years so I took that research background and I started talking with the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections, our local jails, just trying to do research on this.” “And that's how I discovered that there was no legislation and that this was the gap," she said noting how she talked with various incarcerated women about their experiences. “I wanted to create consistency across Ohio because a woman could travel from one facility to another,” she continues. “It's rare that a woman will stay in just one facility for the entirety of her sentence so I wanted to make sure that no matter where a woman was, whether she was in a small jail in a rural area or she was in a bigger city, there would be products that would be available to her at basic levels of access." Ahead of the rest of the competition, Tiggs shared some additional insights with PEOPLE about the rules each contestant must follow to compete for one of the coveted titles. Read ahead for the biggest rules for the pageant. - Contestants must be married to qualify for the Mrs. division, but divorced women can still compete in the Miss division - You have to resign as Mrs. America if you get a divorce within the year you won the crown - Attendance to rehearsals and other activities is mandatory - The competition interviews are 'round-robin' style - There are no 'formal rules' around a contestant’s appearance - Judges don’t pick the winning costumes - Contestants can compete while pregnant - Contestants have to be over 18 years old to compete, but there's no age cap - [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This is not all correct info. Not sure it was People Magazine or whom they choose to interview thy got it wrong. (NT) -- No name, 02:04:51 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/38.70.236.198) I want to know their unwritten rules...heard a lot of drama about this system with other orgs (NT) -- No name, 16:33:43 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.201.61) I don't understand the difference between Mrs. America and Mrs. AmericaN. (NT) -- No name, 21:44:22 08/30/24 Fri (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) Mrs. AmericaN is for all the state 1st R/U's (NT) -- No name, 22:27:29 08/30/24 Fri (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) Thank you!! (NT) -- No name, 09:53:49 09/02/24 Mon (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95)

Subject: What state titleholders are we loving right now?
Author: No Name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:25:06 08/16/24 Fri (ip70-188-204-226.ph.ph.cox.net/70.188.204.226) I’m obsessed with North Carolina, Texas, Washington, and Nebraska. Any thoughts? And their teens as well! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I have a lot of favorites in this class. Currently, some of them are AL, AR, CA, NC, OH, AK, PA, RI, ND, SD, WY, WI, IA, and KS (NT) -- No name, 03:26:01 08/19/24 Mon (syn-067-253-154-035.res.spectrum.com/67.253.154.35) I like NC (NT) -- No name, 15:31:42 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.50.136) It’s a mess (NT) -- No name, 15:32:14 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.50.136) SD OK have to remember the rest (NT) -- No name, 15:42:35 08/29/24 Thu (38.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.38) Florida (NT) -- No name, 17:39:59 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/142.136.0.79) Why even go through all of this prediction and admiration efforts--when there are seemingly continued law-suits in Florida and no idea of who will be in control of the national competitions. -- It was posted here about MAO held over New Year's holiday but who is running it?, 17:48:06 08/30/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Great class -- No name, 20:39:29 08/30/24 Fri (mobile-166-199-242-083.mycingular.net/166.199.242.83) Great girls -- No name, 20:41:27 08/30/24 Fri (99-74-255-5.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.74.255.5) sd ok utah vermont (NT) -- No name, 22:54:02 08/30/24 Fri (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) montana and tennessee (NT) -- No name, 22:58:42 08/30/24 Fri (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Kansas, Michigan, Tennessee and Texas (NT) -- Would love to know more about Iowa., 19:42:24 08/31/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) WA, PA, NC, FL, NY, TX, KY, AR, GA, DE, MN (NT) -- No name, 20:16:41 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/172.56.217.28) Hawaii…just you watch! (NT) -- No name, 10:40:44 09/01/24 Sun (75-30-250-233.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net/75.30.250.233) Which state winner is out of school, not in needs of a scholarship and either doesn't want or can't be given the winner's salary? There is your next winner! (NT) -- No name, 15:16:19 09/01/24 Sun (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) It seems like "the contestant" doesn't even win anymore......."the story" behind her wins. -- Sad., 21:33:15 09/01/24 Sun (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135)

Subject: RETRO BEAUTY
Author: Lovey Howell III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:05:53 08/31/24 Sat (syn-035-129-116-159.res.spectrum.com/35.129.116.159) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Well, if you have this 1968 book, then show us what is on page 16. -- Was Miss America always on the cover of TV Guide in early September?, 00:52:21 09/01/24 Sun (syn-097-095-094-190.res.spectrum.com/97.95.94.190) Let me demonstrate how this could have gone better for you. "Wow! This is so cool! Where did you find this? Was it in your family all this time. If you could find a few moments, could you scan and post the article inside? That would be great! Thank you so much!" Now, that may have gotten you some results. Didn't yo mama teach you how to talk to people? (NT) -- No name, 10:24:58 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-188-072-068.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.68) Thanks for taking time to point out manners to Jeff. She’s struggled with personal interactions in WI and on these boards for years. (NT) -- No name, 11:00:58 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) It's a shame as he seems to know quite a bit in regard to pageants. If he would just come across more polite it would be possible to have an interesting conversation with him. Why is he like this?e (NT) -- No name, 14:24:14 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-188-072-068.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.68) IP97.95.94.190, I was ready to fire off a retort, but then I paused and remembered my own grace and poise. But secretly, I was thinking "Verpiss dich, Arschloch"!! , but like I said, I am way to classy for that!" .... (NT) -- Lovey Howell III aka Miss Castaway 1965, 16:23:58 09/01/24 Sun (syn-035-129-116-159.res.spectrum.com/35.129.116.159) Yes, Lovey.....you are way too classy to get caught up in the unpleasant business of reprimanding someone for their lack of manners. That poise and grace is what landed you the title of Miss Castaway 1965. I, on the other hand, was brought up in a trailer park and occasionally use my fingerboard for my buttermilk, so I am happy to do your dirtywork! (NT) -- No name, 17:28:36 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-188-072-068.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.68) Cor: "fingerbowl" (NT) -- No name, 17:29:53 09/01/24 Sun (syn-065-188-072-068.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.68)

Subject: Anyone have Miss for America results from Las Vegas? Many thanks!!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:40:15 08/27/24 Tue (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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North Carolina won. Alabama first runner up followed by Florida (NT) -- No name, 08:43:15 08/27/24 Tue (pool-96-242-88-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net/96.242.88.28) Can any list the order of the semi-finalists by alphabetical state name or how announced on the state. -- And any special award winners...does the winner go to a Mrs. World contest any longer?, 23:54:31 08/27/24 Tue (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) does anyone know the list of semi-finalists? (NT) -- No name, 11:43:23 08/27/24 Tue (NoHost/159.100.209.51) It is on the mrsamerica.com site (NT) -- No name, 21:01:11 08/27/24 Tue (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) Was there a Mrs. America contest in connection to this held in Las Vegas? But I take it that if so, its not the same Mrs. America as long known of decades ago and was -- hosted by Florence Henderson and other celebrities on telecast shows?, 21:35:10 08/27/24 Tue (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) It's the same one. The "Miss" division was added a few years back (first called "Miss for America," then changed to "Miss for America Strong," presumably due to a conflict with the name being too close to Miss America). The same Mrs. America pageant also added another division that was supposed to be created as a pageant for all the states 1st runners up called "Mrs. American," but it's since kind of turned into an at-large free for all for states that don't hold actual pageants. Big money grab all around... but yeah, it's the same Mrs. America you're thinking of. (NT) -- owned by Elaine Marmel, 22:51:51 08/27/24 Tue (64-250-47-57.dyn.tcworks.net/64.250.47.57) Mrs American results: 2nd RU Utah, 1st RU Colorado, Winner Washington. Mrs America is today. (NT) -- LEE, 07:10:19 08/28/24 Wed (c-73-191-114-245.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.191.114.245) Just read an article on "Mrs. American." So silly for all the pageants to drop or add a letter to be able to slide in under the door. In my opinion, that's one of the reasons that interest in pageants from the public dropped. All of these system pageants with their silly names and big huge bucket crowns. When you see a stage full of people in the mall and 95% of them are wearing crowns, where is the specialness in that? It just means you paid enough money to get a crown. Why not just order one online? (NT) -- No name, 08:57:11 08/28/24 Wed (syn-065-188-072-056.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.56) I agree! Been saying this for years. I'm a former state winner and director for the Mrs America system. It used to be special and a once and done deal. The need to drop the Miss. If you follow the system ost states can barely scrape together 5 Miss contestants. Hardly worth the trouble. The American is somewhat better but so confusing to people. There were many missing state delegates this year at nationals. They also need to beef up their prize package. It's pretty much non-existant. Lastly, please give the winners a bouquet of flowers (NT) -- BP, 07:17:12 08/29/24 Thu (c-73-191-114-245.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.191.114.245) I think in regard to national pageants there should be Miss America, Miss USA, Mrs. America, America's Outstanding Teen, Junior Miss (or whatever they are calling themselves this week) and Teen USA. When you get into all these system titles like Miss Grand Strong International Elite Plus Woman East of the Mississippi Popcorn Queen you've gone too far. (NT) -- No name, 10:38:49 08/29/24 Thu (syn-065-188-072-125.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.125) Ttt (NT) -- No name, 15:43:40 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.50.175) I thought Mrs. America was American political drama television miniseries that received widespread critical acclaim. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._America_(miniseries), 18:15:32 08/31/24 Sat (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Did any former MAO titleholders compete at Mrs. America this year? (NT) -- No name, 19:08:24 08/31/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The winner of Mrs. America is an mAO girl out of TN (NT) -- No name, 21:20:10 08/31/24 Sat (NoHost/47.188.52.70)

Subject: Miss America gown presentation
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:38:52 08/22/24 Thu (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) Interesting video of the winning gowns of the Miss America competition pageant shows from 1963 until 2018--like why not also 2019 to 2024 (??), posted on YouTube on August 17, 2024 (at least the year shown on the video is the year of the actual competition show and also Alan Campbell thought to also include Suzette Charles from the 1983 pageant, even though the former Miss New Jersey had not won Miss America the following July, now exactly 40 years ago last month): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl9IxeRh7es Who had the best of the best? Seems like white was the prominent color to win with? And now its your time to add viewer comments on Alan Campbell's Miss America gown compilation video that was posted just five days ago and only has 126 views---thus far, today, on August 22nd. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Susan Akin imo has and always will have the best gown. Others that stood out were Elizabeth Ward, Kim Aiken, Sapp, Suvari(?), Erica yellow, (NT) -- No name, 21:58:23 08/22/24 Thu (NoHost/149.115.99.137) is that all you can say.....Suvari(?)....? No clue whom you are speaking of. -- What?? Like you can not check online who you meant--or what year?, 22:34:12 08/22/24 Thu (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) Thank you for posting this! Yes, indeed, Susan Akin "has and always will have the best gown!" However, there were many! Including Suvari(?) who you might mean to be Nina Davuluri '2013, the yellow gown by Gaspar Cruz of Houston. What an achievement in addition to all of his USA-winning gowns! (NT) -- No name, 23:04:33 08/22/24 Thu (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) What class that he included Suzette Charles, as she is a forever Miss America alongside them all. (NT) -- No name, 23:19:06 08/22/24 Thu (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Jennifer Berry is still the most beautiful1 (NT) -- No name, 00:25:11 08/23/24 Fri (NoHost/143.244.169.158) Interesting that both Debbie Maffett and Vanessa Williams changed their gowns between the final night evening gown competition and the crowning moment. I thought each upgraded her gown to something more elegant and memorable; especially Vanessa, as I was never a fan of her white toga gown. (NT) -- No name, 01:40:11 08/23/24 Fri (NoHost/208.127.185.241) That lilac colored dress was her parade costume. Personally, I thought it looked a little too "costumey" to be crowned in. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:02 08/23/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-111.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.111) Debbie's crowning dress was also her parade. (NT) -- No name, 10:38:24 08/27/24 Tue (syn-074-143-208-238.biz.spectrum.com/74.143.208.238) Alan is a good guy (NT) -- No name, 14:00:29 08/23/24 Fri (syn-098-026-121-091.res.spectrum.com/98.26.121.91) Who is Alan and from where.....and any email to send him a note, request of video or have questions? YouTube changed their -- previously great service by having a contact page for those who post videos., 17:06:47 08/23/24 Fri (NoHost/199.91.248.226) Favorite gowns- Kim Aiken, Carolyn Sapp, Dorothy Benham, Elizabeth Ward, and Kylene Barker. (NT) -- No name, 22:04:34 08/25/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.84.167) as in 2018, awarded in 2017? if so, 2018 (Cara) was the last "real" Miss America. 2019 (Nia), was the first victim of the post Sam era (NT) -- No name, 15:51:25 08/27/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.109) Way too much white. Jeez. BUT. Jennifer Berry and Debbye Turner (who just so lovely) pulled white off beautifully. That body on Berry and Debby's love face. (NT) -- my take, 19:06:36 08/27/24 Tue (c-68-33-67-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net/68.33.67.212) Erica Dunlap had the most beautiful gown in Miss America history. She totally won the pageant in that moment! And though I can't stand her I guess I will give Mallory for a memorable gown. (NT) -- No name, 11:44:39 08/28/24 Wed (NoHost/24.245.189.25) Yeah, that yellow dress and Erika Harold are iconic. Perfect dress color, perfect complexion color, everything just worked. Who made the dress? (NT) -- No name, 11:48:00 08/28/24 Wed (syn-065-188-072-056.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.56) Dress? Are you a fan of pageants to not know what women wear for their Miss America coronations are not dresses, but evening gowns. There is a difference....about twenty-or so inches of fabric. lol I liked the gowns of -- Donn Axum, Susan Powell, Grace Elizabeth Ward, Susan Akin, Heather Whitestone, and Laura Kaepeler., 18:55:28 08/28/24 Wed (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) This is such a bizarre and needlessly combative comment to a poster who is just trying to participate in a post that’s actually making this message board fun. You must be a thrill to be around. (NT) -- Who, 03:57:04 08/30/24 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Yep. Just ask the people in Wisconsin what they think of him (Jeff). (NT) -- No name, 07:54:03 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) Thank you for your defense, but I know this Jeff character well, lol. I refuse to let him get under my skin anymore. What's even funnier, is I am in the designer apparel business for 30 years. To us, anything that's not a pair of pants is a "dress." So, again, he's not quite as smart as he thinks he is. (NT) -- No name, 10:47:40 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-044.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.44) I guess giving Mallory props for a rememberable gown without the backlash was too much to ask (NT) -- No name, 18:02:40 08/28/24 Wed (mobile-166-199-149-105.mycingular.net/166.199.149.105) Loved Caressa Cameron’s gown (NT) -- No name, 15:34:53 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.50.175) I scored 60 Miss America pageants (from 1959-2018), and in my estimation, 13 of the 60 eventual winners were the best in Evening Gown of their respective Top 10s: (1966/KS) Deborah Bryant, (1969/IL) Judith Ford, (1975/TX) Shirley Cothran, (1982/AR) Elizabeth Ward, (1983/CA) Debra Maffett, (1992/HI) Carolyn Sapp, (1994/SC) Kimberly Aiken, (1997/KS) Tara Dawn Holland, (1999/VA) Nicole Johnson, (2000/KY) Heather French, (2005/AL) Deidre Downs, (2007/OK) Lauren Nelson, and (2008/MI) Kirsten Haglund. (NT) -- whoo, 23:54:19 08/29/24 Thu (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) It seems so hard to score the old pageants from the 50's & early 60's because the tapes are in b/w and they were all in those pouty white ball gowns with gloves. They all looked great, but very similar. I noticed the gown trend changed with Jane Jayroe (I liked her dress) and I also really liked Debra Barnes back then. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:50 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-044.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.44) Cor: "poufy" (NT) -- No name, 10:56:15 08/30/24 Fri (syn-065-188-072-044.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.44) It was hard for those reasons. But it was fun! (NT) -- whoo, 17:03:20 08/30/24 Fri (78.sub-174-228-102.myvzw.com/174.228.102.78) It is kind of amazing, the poster said last Thursday (August 22nd) that there were only 126 clicked video viewers when they posted the link here. And now today, perhaps in great measure this pageant message board, the viewer counter is at 855 (including my first viewing visit tonight, lol). I guess there are still many pageant fans out there or one person with not much else to do, lol, just jacked-up the viewer numbers!!! Sort of like what -- Jeanne (Miss NC 1963) talked about here in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zlj77cn4TI, 20:25:27 08/30/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158)

Subject: Why are all topics regarding the date announcement suddenly gone? Is it because Robin may be in hot water?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:58:46 08/28/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Yesterday, Glenn's team filed an Emergency Motion with the court. You can read it for yourself (link to Palm Beach County Clerk of Court below). Essentially, they allege that Robin disregarded the judge's instructions to "maintain the status quo". On August 26th the judge said, "What I do want to hear about is what can be done in the interim so that information can be shared so that if material commitments need to be made, you-all, the parties, can agree on that or bring it before the Court." Apparently when Robin's team informed Glenn's team of their intention to announce dates Monday night, the following was Glenn's team's response: "My client demands that the announcement not occur. My client demands that Ms. Fleming immediately cease and desist any further announcements or entering into contracts. The plan is contrary to the best interests of and damaging to the pageant and organization. As Ms. Fleming discussed with Mr. Straub, it is imprudent to have the pageant on these dates, including requiring contestants to sacrifice family events and travel during New Year’s holiday. The imprudent planning of the pageant over the holidays will reduce live attendance and pageant viewership, adversely affecting revenue. The action is also contrary to the content and spirit of Judge Curley’s ruling on August 20, 2024. Judge Curley made clear that the status quo must be maintained." Robin announced anyway. The judge issued his order today in response to the motion, and you can read it for yourselves, but it sounds like Robin can't make a decision about where to blow her nose without communicating with Glenn's team and the two sides agreeing. If they can't, it goes to the judge. She has to provide information about the IP, written "Monthly Pageant Reports", her activities, activities she intends to undertake, the list goes on. I encourage you to read numbers 6-11 regarding the 2025 pageant. She can't enter into contracts or make commitments related to just about anything over $300 without agreement between both sides. The order goes on regarding details, confidentiality, etc. Something tells me Robin is having a very bad day today. https://appsgp.mypalmbeachclerk.com/eCaseView/ Use that link, choose "Continue as Guest", verify you're not a robot, and search by Robin's name. It's the first case on the list. Select the case, choose "Dockets & Documents", go to page 6. The documents I referenced are the bottom two. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Local Volunteers..... our local agreements and state fees are due within a week. We are pulling out. Getting really exhausted from this program. It's sad. Very sad. I've been with this organization over 20 years. I'm done. (NT) -- No name, 20:23:54 08/28/24 Wed (syn-035-148-166-168.res.spectrum.com/35.148.166.168) I can't imagine why ANY local or state program would send $10 to Robin - much less the license fees. (NT) -- No name, 20:29:40 08/28/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.50.214) This is just horrible for the State "Miss" winners. Many announced the dates on their own social media accounts. Looks like now it's all in flux and that Glenn really doesn't want it occuring over the holidays. I just feel sad for the contestants. (NT) -- No name, 20:38:58 08/28/24 Wed (syn-035-145-140-185.res.spectrum.com/35.145.140.185) TTT (NT) -- No name, 15:35:31 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/12.233.34.186) What should we expect from a woman who took 10 years to obtain an undergraduate degree (NT) -- No name, 00:48:35 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/12.0.180.98) This is some tacky, trashy stuff. For many years this was a wonderful organization, but we have now been ruined by these interlopers who have done their best to put us in the gutter. (NT) -- No name, 04:09:37 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/107.72.178.182) The news programs really need to do a story on this I’m sure the state titleholders and families don’t even know about this (NT) -- No name, 07:04:41 08/29/24 Thu (126.dallas-16rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.74.212.126) At least Glenn feels the dates are terrible and Robin tried to sell it up on the call acting like they would be pushed out later next time but this was what the had for this time (NT) -- No name, 07:10:42 08/29/24 Thu (126.dallas-16rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.74.212.126) I checked the Walt Disney Theater Website and it seems that every week in January is booked for show other than the first week. (NT) -- No name, 08:34:31 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.71.142) Something doesn’t add up especially since she said committed through 2028? That Miss America would get what appears to be squeezing in those dates (NT) -- No name, 08:43:06 08/29/24 Thu (126.dallas-16rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.74.212.126) If the courts stop this, can the dates change? (NT) -- No name, 15:16:19 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/172.58.51.159) Yes (NT) -- No name, 15:36:41 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/146.75.175.1) So don’t buy any tickets, air or hotel (NT) -- No name, 15:50:24 08/29/24 Thu (75-104-88-94.mobility.exede.net/75.104.88.94) too late (NT) -- No name, 16:26:13 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/128.163.239.166) Hopefully no one has booked rooms that can't be changed - especially since Robin hadn't actually worked out host hotel/group rates yet, tickets aren't on sale so that shouldn't be a problem at this time, and hopefully airfare can be cancelled and applied to tickets on different dates if necessary. (NT) -- No name, 16:31:35 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/139.71.144.2) It will continue. If you read the court documents you will see that the judge has no sense of urgency with this case. Glenn’s team filed an emergency motion to try and stop these dates from happening but the judge did not grant it and the next hearing will still be in late Sept as planned. His response to the emergency motion was basically that Robin is to not make anymore big decisions like this without consulting with Glenn’s team “going forward”. He also stated that Robin is to provide all planning info for the 2025 competition on these dates as plans are made. So basically the pageant is happening on the set dates. (NT) -- No name, 17:53:03 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.71.142) I'm not sure that's the case. Because she made the announcement on Monday - AFTER the judge told them to maintain the status quo. So she blatantly defied that directive. I guess we'll see... (NT) -- No name, 18:24:47 08/29/24 Thu (NoHost/139.71.144.2) Did you not read the court documents? It’s all there. (NT) -- No name, 11:02:21 08/30/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.71.142) Any of those state directors that gave Robin powers of attorney should probably go get those cancelled or terminated because if she can't do anything without approval for the national org, that could affect her being able to operate as each state's representative. (NT) -- Anon, 16:35:42 08/29/24 Thu (146.sub-174-196-194.myvzw.com/174.196.194.146)

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