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F4OG Message Board

Discussion about the ACI F4 Illustrator paintball gun, ACI Griffin, and of paintball in general. Check the F4OG FAQ before posting a question here (there may be an answer for your question). Other non-paintball topics should be taken to the General Discussion Forum.


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  • Paintball Tournament -- Jrob, 18:39:08 01/20/03 Mon (64.65.171.218)
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  • wow! memories -- jon-boy, 23:36:32 01/19/03 Sun (24.88.228.149)
    I havene't been to this site in about a year and a half! It's good to know that everyone is alive and kicking! I've been out of pb for about a year, as I joined the Army last January. I'm itching to get back into it, and am thinking about just buying my bro in laws grif, as opposed to sinking such a big chunk of change into another mag. I've always liked the idea of starting with a less expensive marker and working on it.
    Anyway, Mark, thanks for keeping this site up and running. It's good to be back!
    Jon

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  • I got a proble with my Griffin -- Chris, 13:03:07 01/19/03 Sun (24.73.22.46)
    I just got a Griffin and put a Black Zero gravity barrel on it and a rear cocking venturi bolt on it. I have tested it and am wondering how can I fix the ball detent plate to stop a double feed. I have noticed that one paintball goes into the chamber and that same paintball moved forward and another enters into the chamber and then i fire it and boom they colide in the barrel and a brake occurs. Can I ajust the plate to stop this double feed.

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  • sputtering -- ricky, 22:00:05 01/12/03 Sun (66.125.135.105)
    hi i was just wondering...the other day i was out at hollywood sports in bellflower, california, and my gun was shooting fine but my gun kept freezing...i was wondering maybe if my anti syphon was off because it shot white clouds of smoke and after that the next couple days i went back but i couldnt play because my gun started sputtering...this is after i cleaned the gun and oiled it down...we even re oiled it at the field but it wouldnt fire right just sputter...when i got home it would do the same but shoot white chuncks of co2 out of the barrel...so im guessing my anti syphon tube is off and catching liquid...what do you guys think of my situation...thanks in advanced...

    ricky

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  • 12 Revy Loader For F4? -- Brian, 01:40:20 01/15/03 Wed (198.81.26.204)
    Hi people i just wanted to know if getting a 12Revy loader for my F4 Illustrator I think Tp power feed is good or if i should just stick to my regular loader?

    Thnx:)

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  • F2, F4 compatibility -- Daniel, 22:43:32 01/16/03 Thu (66.69.161.69)
    Hey guys

    I found this site after asking some F2 questions at BEOG. They went ahead and directed me here.

    Anyways, does anyone know of any compatibility stuff between the f2 and f4? So far the only useful things i've seen are
    1)Trigger frame (slightly). It takes some modding, but it will work
    2)Low pressure chamber. Haven't quite proven this yet, but they look the same.

    so am I right and also, are there more? thanks guys

    -daniel

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  • Need Help With Velocity -- Kenn, 15:40:20 01/14/03 Tue (166.50.79.13)
    I'm frustrated. I love my F4 and have never had problems....until now. My velocity has dropped and I have not been able to resolve the problem. I am sitting at about 150 FPS. I made sure I had a full tank of Co2. I have changed out the spring. Cleaned the barrel, bolt, and upper chamber. After all that, no improvement. Local guys at the shop were sort of at a loss for suggestions. Any suggestions before I send it to ACI for their help??? Hurry....I want to get back on the field.

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  • F4 upgrades -- Tyler, 09:37:02 01/15/03 Wed (198.234.249.217)
    hey guys i just bought the F4 and i would like to know what are the best upgrades for it and what they do...this is so i can stomp the competition at my Paintball matches i have in my hometown....send the info to my e-mail address please i really need it.

    Thanx

    ~freak~
    ~~Out~~

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  • No real reason... just stopped by... -- Mr. Niceguy, 11:50:07 01/13/03 Mon (68.112.40.122)
    I see Reaper's still handing out quality info for the paintball masses. Kudo's Reap. Who else from the MIA list still contributes? Mark still in the running or did he retire... I recall he was already an old fart when I started bothering him about paintball. :)

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  • Nitro tank -- Chris, 23:27:50 01/12/03 Sun (24.73.22.46)
    I am looking at a bull dog 48 ci 3000 psi n2 tank? How many shots can i get off?

    Does it work with a remote?

    do I need any thing else?

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  • DUH! Dimples on a painball! Million dollar idea. -- Nico, 01:16:55 12/27/02 Fri (216.228.4.61)
    Dimples. Dimples on paintballs, kinda like those on a golf ball. Why? well less air resistance for one. better areodynmics. Hell thats exactly why golf balls have em.

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  • Local field FPS -- Nico, 21:59:50 01/11/03 Sat (216.228.4.145)
    Hey yall my local field chronos at 240 fps (outdoor). I was curious when the other local fields chrono at 270 290 for pumps even! Does 240 sound a little low? what FPS do you chrono at yer local field.

    Velocity consistency for me aint really a problem at 240, even without my regulator (F4), and im runnin a regular co2 tank, itoccasionaly spikes when it goes "liquid". any one here experience problems below 240.

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  • Paintball Curves -- Brian, 01:07:18 01/13/03 Mon (198.81.26.204)
    Well my paintballs tend to curve when i shoot them would anyone know why?

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  • zero-gravity combo barrel -- steve, 18:38:54 12/15/02 Sun (152.163.189.97)
    hello,
    my zero-gravity combo barrel is causing me some problems, or at least I think that it is. I seems like I have a ridge or something where the two pieces screw together. And by the way, the problem is the pballs break in the barrel around every shot. At least I got my stock barrel....

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  • TKO Mag at actionvillage.com -- Nico, 01:18:04 01/12/03 Sun (216.228.4.197)
    Does that TKO mag at actionvillage.com come with the AGD box and instructional video? and as far as macroline, are they a bitch to work with? I suppose they are easier to customize seeing all you need to do is cut em to lenght.

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  • Just Bought This Gun -- Brian, 23:26:38 01/10/03 Fri (198.81.26.204)
    Well i jsut bought a F4 Illustratorwith a zero gravity barrel but im not quite sure what size paintball to buy...does anyone know?

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  • New Gun -- Brian, 00:24:33 01/11/03 Sat (198.81.26.204)
    Well I just bought a F4 Illustrator High Volume Cell, Venturi Bolt,"16 Zero Gravity Combo Barrel and sub Zero 4 Stage Expansion Chamber with matching anodized finish from a friend for $150 including 20oz 4hoppers. I wanted to know first of all what paintball size to use? and second if i got a good deal..........o yeah there was no damage done to the gun because it was only used once

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  • Product Question -- Jay The Scorpion, 05:21:21 12/13/02 Fri (209.240.198.63)
    I was wondering if anybody knew where I could find the best price on a DYE red dot sight or if anybody has one that they would like to sell? Thanks JAY

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  • f4 illustrator gun queston please help -- steve, 18:23:32 12/14/02 Sat (205.188.209.74)
    the valve that sits behind the cup seal, which way does the bump faces

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  • expansion chambers??? -- ricky, 17:42:02 01/06/03 Mon (152.163.189.97)
    as i was taking apart my gun i found that when i took my x-chamber off there was a what seemd like a o ring between the top of the x-chamber and the gun...if screws in fine but is that needed...i know there is a o ring on the ex chamber itself above the threads i believe but not above that right???

    second question is...i just bought my gun used...how can i tell what model it is...its moded already...with the x-chamber, venturi bolt, and 0 gravity barrel, with micro line for co2 feed...but how can i tell if its a 98, 99, or tp, and all that...thanks...

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  • Goggle system -- Mantis, 13:43:43 01/02/03 Thu (67.80.48.68)
    Hey Guys,

    Does any one know if the diablo skul lenses are interchangable with the Sheridan prowler ones. The mask I bought says to use Prowler lenses but is made by diablo and says skul on it. Hope they are the same because I am having a hard time finding thermal lenses for the prowler but the diablo skul lenses are all over.

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  • Phay Frames for F4 -- Scott, 23:15:06 12/25/02 Wed (63.188.144.39)
    Does anyone have any info regarding electronic frames for the F4's? I would like to look into them if they are available.

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  • Question regarding an F4 -- Shannon, 22:25:33 01/05/03 Sun (12.76.226.253)
    I just bought an F4 and when I was field stripping it, I took the bolt out and where the ball retaining spring hits the bolt it put a pretty good scratch in it. Is that common? The gun shoots great and have had no problems. Thanks.

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  • Barrel/Reservoir Plug Issues -- Xander, 20:05:51 01/04/03 Sat (207.5.144.151)
    I just bought a Thunder Pig 14" Barrel for my F4. Apon starting to screw it in, I found it would not go in all the way, because the reservor plug is a hair to big. If I take the reservor plug out, the barrel fits fine, but I cant screw the plug back in. Is there any way I can get around this problem? such as maybe a smaller reservor plug, if there is such a thing. I'd really like to use this barrel. thanks for any input.

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  • 99 f4 sear -- Greg, 17:52:43 12/28/02 Sat (209.83.144.100)
    hello. does anyone know where online i can get a sear for my 99 f4?

    thank you

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  • HAPPY NEW PAINTBALL YEAR -- Matt, 00:52:09 01/02/03 Thu (24.67.253.203)
    Just wanting to wish everyone a happy new year and an excellent new year in paintball!

    All the way from Kelowna BC Canada!

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  • vapor valve -- arch, 18:20:59 12/22/02 Sun (205.188.209.74)
    hey can any one tell me about the vapor valve and who makes it for autocockers? also whare can i get it off the internet? if u can awnser my q's email the awnsers to arch88drew@aol.com thanks.

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  • Getting an Impulse -- Kristopher Lentz, 16:45:37 12/28/02 Sat (24.216.229.234)
    I'm getting an Impulse from FerreT. He's posted a pic of his impulse on here. With money that i have (140) i know i need to get an N2 tank. But i'm debating between other stuff i want to upgrade. I'm thinking of getting a tapeworm to make it more consistent. And then i'm debating between either a blade trigger or a delrin bolt. I'm thinking of going with the bolt and then just use the stock trigger and then do a trigger mod. Please help and give suggestions.

    Thanks

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  • PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT -- Nico, 21:51:26 12/12/02 Thu (216.228.4.73)
    Hey yall i would like to take this time to do a PSA, and i would like yall to help me out. It might get all artsy fartsy. Its obvious this f4 board is temming with people from all walks of life with a common bond: the love of paintball. The question arises ever so often, what makes a good paintball player? I belive the question oughta be What can we/you do to make yourself/ourselves a better player. I wanna get at least 5 ways from yall, be it equipment tips, playing techniques, tactics, philosophies or beliefs to make ourselves (or the pball community in general) better as players. Long or short tips, any info will do. My hope is when Mark gets well enough, he can compille this stuff and put it under a category to share with the community. I guess ill start 1st with some of the more obvious "things "we can do.

    1)Play often as you can. Financial difffulties? get a/a better job. Go as a group and split the cost. Or save up and play more conservative with your shots while focusing on movement rather than volume of fire. This will help define your playing style, and helps tailors your financial situation.

    2) Observe games when u can. Sometimes sitting out one or two games for a breather can lead to a tacticaly/strategicaly rewarding experience. Get a bird's eye or overhead view of the terrain u play on. Ref a game if ya can.

    3)Help a newbie. Help a newb, especially the younger ones, out in regards to safety regulations, or playing techniques or lay some positive encouragement. The field i play is teeming with newbs that need constant reminding not to be intimdated by a players equipment. Aint nothin cooler than whatchin' a humble noob with a rental gun surreder a jerk ass vet and thanking you after the game for the advice.

    4)Communicate. Before a game starts gather up your walk-ons/teamates and formulate a SIMPLE plan. Call out positions and keep up the chatter on the field. You ll be surprised how the herding mentatilty/behaiviour can work to the team advantage/disadvantage. Breif and de-breif a game.

    5)Be prepared. Come to the field prepared. Bring a squeege X-tra O rings, tubes, whatever. Pballing is a great means of teaching one responsibility, preparedsness and self-reliance.

    6)Be safe. Be polite and remind folks to have the safety on and/or Barrell plugs in. Gogles too, wear em at the chrono station! Dont be Nazi about it just remind em your vision is waay more valuble than their convenience.

    anyway these are some of the ideas i can contibute. Help the F4OG and other Pballers some of your ideas. Thnx for your time!

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  • I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- Nico, 02:53:23 11/18/02 Mon (216.228.4.49)
    I would like to see a company make a fully auto/burst fire capable gun that is fully mechanical, ie no batteries or solenoids to trip of. An mp5 trigger group would be cool, single, triple, full, safe whatever. If there is a candidate company that can do it Worr oughta, or maybe WGP or AGD maybe even Benchmark. Anyhow heres my million dollar idea that should of been done by now.

    I would like to see paintball prices drop by $10

    oh yeah and world peace too lol

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  • '01 F4 and gear for sale -- Tim, 23:55:58 12/22/02 Sun (216.127.255.252)
    I havnt played paintball in nearly a year and have decided that i should sell my gear and spend the money in a better way (computer gear).

    The gun it's self is near perfect. Due to a faulty venturi bolt ACI gave me a new body, and i have only played 4 or 5 times with the new body. I also went through a stage with the dremel to the valve...needless to say the valve is as new as the body because i had to order a new one.

    So it has a new body and a new valve, and a new sear (that was put on by ACI for free, they said the old one wore down). And like i said all of that has only been used a few times. The two bolts however are since '01 but they are as good as new...(Gotta love that ACI tech.) The barrel is stock and the paint is sanded off so that it fades to black (i got bored...again). Nothing on the inside of the barrel was touched. So the only real problem with the gun is the trigger, i had to trim it to get a double trigger frame on it (which is still on). This was before ACI released the double trigger frame.

    It is an TP so it has a low pressure chamber. however i traded a friend of mine for an expansion chamber...he was running n02 and didnt have the need for it (he got the grip i got the chamber).

    I also have a 12v revolution, elbow etc. 20 oz C02 thank and a JT spectra with a clear thermal lens.

    If your interested or have any questions email me at timspeciale@timmyqwest.com

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  • Venturi Bolts? -- Rodrigo, 21:12:20 12/17/02 Tue (209.178.188.105)
    hey guys i was wondering if aftermarket F4 venturi bolts will work with my griffin because my stock bolt is pretty crapy thanks guys

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  • Slide Check -- DaRaptor, 03:14:34 12/15/02 Sun (128.187.0.166)
    I just bought a Bulldog 2 88/4500 preset system for dirt cheap, so I'm excited to get it in the mail later this week =)

    Anyway, my question is about slide check valves. I know they're supposed to shut off the gas to the marker and bleed the excess so you can disconnect stuff... But for the life of me, I can't figure out how they work, or how they should be set up (which side to put to the marker/air supply, etc) and do they actually shut off the gas like a valve, or will they bleed the whole line from the cup seal to the on/off at the tank? I think the F4OG should have a diagram of a slide check setup and a little brief about their operation and use. Someone should write that up and send it to Mark to add to our already wonderful techroom section.

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  • bb paintballs -- CRAIG, 15:14:11 12/12/02 Thu (24.46.58.121)
    can you use 6mm bb paintballs in springpowered rifles. if you can can you use it when you go paintballing.

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