Create a New Forum Admin Login Member Login Contribute to Voyager Search VoyForums Help Desk VoyForums Exchange VoyForums Directory/Categories VoyForums Homepage VoyForums News FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

04/24/25 09:40:34

[ Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4 ]

Subject: Removal of basketball goals

Author: Nancy Valencic

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 16:04:04 Having reviewed minutes to August Board meeting, I need to vent and hope all homeowners who have children who use basketball courts pay close attention to what the Board is doing. Five Board members voted to PERMANENTLY remove basketball goals and posts (but don't know what they will do with them once removed). The minutes imply this is being done because of two incidents - one involving loud music, and one involving a "suspicious" individual (who did nothing), and another individual who jumped a pool fence. It was also dicussed at meeting that Board reps. had met with MJPD Chief Andy Garrett, who said he would increase patrols in amenity area including bicycle patrols. Also, alternatives to permanently eliminating the basketball courts was discussed - such as shortening one goal post, thus eliminating full court games (an alternative I happen to favor). But it appears that some Board members would not be swayed - despite Chief Garrett's word and alternative suggestions, the only way to stop this crime spree in Willoughby Station is to permanently and totally remove the basketball courts. This has to be the case, because according to a board member/realtor, home values in W.S. have dropped because we have basketball courts (?!!!?) So let's see - the Board replaced "defective" camera at lower pool, they are getting pricing on additional cameras, and then they will get price on cost of installing additional cameras. The Board also agreed to "commit" to gating the entrance to amenity area at Sydney Terr. (no mention of price there), install a card reader system for area, put bushes and boulders around amenity area, all while they are to look at different"membership levels" in subdivision to finance a clubhouse. If basketball courts are the root of all evil in the Amenity area and they were voted to be removed, why must we spend all this money on additional security measures. Won't the bad element avoid W.S. like the plague if there is no where to play basketball? Why not put security measures in place before taking away an amenity that many homeowners use. Why can we not try a suggested alternative to total removal of courts and see if that alleviates problems? Why can we not take Chief Garrett at his word and see if there will be an increased police presence at amenity area? Homeowners, pay attention! Nancy Valencic [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

Subject	Author	Date
No dog	Tom H.	Wed, Aug 26 2009, 16:45:52
Community Input -- Jason, Thu, Aug 27 2009, 8:15:19 Really? -- Tom H., Thu, Aug 27 2009, 8:46:39 Not happy with the decision -- Barb S., Sat, Aug 29 2009, 15:16:26 Not enough -- Eric, Thu, Aug 27 2009, 21:00:51 Board voting process -- Curt Hynek, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 10:28:29 Does my Vote Count? -- Nancy Valencic, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 17:24:28 Board voting Process... -- Brian Snyder, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 21:31:18 Big difference -- Tom H., Sun, Aug 30 2009, 22:33:58
Courts...	Neighbor	Thu, Aug 27 2009, 8:58:05
Pemanently remove goals forever -- Neighbor 2, Thu, Aug 27 2009, 21:15:55
Real Issue	Hoopster	Thu, Aug 27 2009, 20:50:19
Real issue... -- Brian Snyder, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 8:31:49 But will it solve the problem? -- Fiscal Watchdog, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 9:41:26 It will take Adult supervion. Any volunteers? -- Brian Snyder, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 10:31:22 Time Will Tell -- Fiscal Watchdog, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 11:15:23 Search and Seizure. -- Butch Huber, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 16:33:35 Police Coverage -- Lori, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 14:36:47 Isn't it a police matter? -- Neighbor 44, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 15:28:34 Isn't it a police matter? -- Brian Snyder, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 21:40:27 Removal of basketball goals -- Nancy Valencic, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 12:19:10 Re: Removal of basketball goals -- Brian Snyder, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 12:30:58 Vote -- Sean, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 13:38:12 THANK YOU -- Jason, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 16:53:44 Basketball poles coming down. -- bernie (Ridiculous), Sat, Aug 29 2009, 15:25:16
Thank you Board for taking action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	Darinda Lening	Fri, Aug 28 2009, 17:06:18
picnic tables and playground next -- Concerned Parent, Fri, Aug 28 2009, 20:27:09 Why not post your real names??????? -- Darinda Lening, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 7:34:50 Well said -- Sean, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 8:13:36 Attack the messenger? -- Tom H., Sat, Aug 29 2009, 9:53:14 Amenity Area Control -- Charlie Bridges, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 10:21:18 Basketball goals -- Sam, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 11:14:50 I Agree -- Lori, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 14:19:23 No problem at Hickory Hills???? -- Guess again!!!!, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 16:57:41 Charlies post ????? -- Mike, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 15:31:15 Amenity Area Control -- Curt Hynek, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 17:58:13 Far more than 2 percent -- Lori, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 18:54:29 Show me -- Concerned Parent, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 21:06:59 Actually -- Lori, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 22:20:04 Hiding behind... well nothing -- Concerned Neighbor, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 22:58:07 Prove what to whom -- Lori, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 1:14:39 Please share info -- Curt Hynek, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 21:41:29 Lori -- Wow, do you see in color?, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 22:28:49 trying to understand -- Curt Hynek, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 1:27:22 I posted on other site to let my vote count as req'd -- Darinda Lening, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 7:11:18 It's my fault? -- Tom H., Sun, Aug 30 2009, 8:16:36 It has been topic for over 5 years -- Darinda Lening, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 14:39:48 show me -- Tom H., Sun, Aug 30 2009, 17:30:56 Agenda's have not been published... -- Brian Snyder, Sun, Aug 30 2009, 19:07:49 A Teenage Daughter's Point of View -- Samantha Kincaid (frustrated), Mon, Aug 31 2009, 0:02:15 Post on the real site to show your who you are -- Darinda Lening, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 5:06:20 Thank You -- Curt Hynek, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 7:30:47 Logons for other site -- Sean, Tue, Sep 01 2009, 8:25:31 Board member? -- Concerned Parent, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 7:37:20 Confusing -- Lori, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 8:35:08 Lori's post -- Karen, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 8:55:32 Yes -- Lori, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 9:27:21 Real name -- Sean, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 6:36:09 Still waiting -- Concerned Parent, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 9:51:49 Those options have been discussed -- Lori, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 10:15:39 And still waiting..... -- Concerned Parent, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 10:38:34 Not attacking -- Sean, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 10:38:46 Removal of basketball goals -- Curt Hynek, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 14:49:07 I agree -- Barbara Schmitt, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 15:49:08 Official Website -- Lori, Sat, Aug 29 2009, 22:46:32 What a nice night in the park it was tonight. -- Brian Snyder, Sat, Sep 12 2009, 22:47:56 It was nice.. -- Concerned Neighbor, Sat, Sep 12 2009, 23:05:53
Curt - thanks for the phone calls	Brian Snyder	Sun, Aug 30 2009, 22:24:47
You Are Welcome!! -- Curt Hynek, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 0:56:18 I can confirm this -- Mike Schmitt, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 7:41:28
Hearing to be scheduled for Goal Posts.	Brian Snyder	Mon, Aug 31 2009, 13:00:14
Thanks -- Sean, Mon, Aug 31 2009, 13:27:17 Excellent -- Tom H., Mon, Aug 31 2009, 14:03:52 Believe it! They can remove any amenity without each homeowners input -- Mike Schmitt, Sun, Sep 06 2009, 10:40:32 new idea?? -- Curt Hynek, Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:15:57 How does it work? -- Lori, Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:44:43 New Home Owner's Association Covenant -- Butch Huber, Sun, Sep 06 2009, 22:29:10 I think that is the issue -- Lori, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 0:29:05 Addressing someone and being rude or obnoxious are two different things -- Butch Huber, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:44:37 Read through above -- Lori, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 10:06:48 Reply to Butch -- John, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 11:04:18 Sorry typo in the above post -- John, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 11:06:39 better link -- Curt Hynek, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 14:32:49 That is not a bad idea -- John, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 16:03:15 Basket locks??? -- Brian Snyder, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 20:58:42 better than permanent removal -- Curt Hynek, Mon, Sep 07 2009, 23:35:02 Closed Minded -- Mike Schmitt, Tue, Sep 08 2009, 16:37:23 even better link - only $35 -- Curt Hynek, Wed, Sep 09 2009, 16:46:06 That is a good link, here is one too.. Keep an open mind... -- Brian Snyder, Wed, Sep 09 2009, 18:08:23 Tried that! -- Tom H., Wed, Sep 09 2009, 19:00:59 Sand VolleyBall Court -- Mike Schmitt, Wed, Sep 09 2009, 23:09:40 Looks busy to me... -- Brian Snyder, Thu, Sep 10 2009, 5:09:47 Was barely used in WS -- Tom H., Thu, Sep 10 2009, 15:36:40 Wow - didn't know that.. thanks. -- Brian Snyder, Thu, Sep 10 2009, 16:39:36 Response to Butch -- Smith (Concerned), Tue, Sep 15 2009, 8:49:12 I didn't ask you to take a hit off of a joint -- Butch Huber, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 10:08:58 Butch -- Smith (Goals), Tue, Sep 15 2009, 11:31:33 I want you to be really safe, as safe as possible "AND" your rights preserved -- Butch Huber, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 12:32:39 Butch in re: HOA -- Lori, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 13:24:58 Lori, I am coming to know those things which I was unaware -- Butch Huber, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 17:42:38 Meeting -- Smith (Curious), Tue, Sep 15 2009, 21:46:14 Butch did, I could not -- Lori, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 21:51:34 Meeting -- Smith (Still concerned), Tue, Sep 15 2009, 22:44:51 Up but with protections -- Lori, Tue, Sep 15 2009, 23:10:24 I have found what I was looking for, the board has in fact acted illegally. -- Butch Huber, Thu, Sep 17 2009, 12:09:57 Nope -- better informed, Thu, Sep 17 2009, 16:17:50 They have abandoned a common facility -- Butch Huber, Thu, Sep 17 2009, 18:21:37 I appreciate where you're going -- Lori, Thu, Sep 17 2009, 19:08:11 There are provisions for those things you mentioned -- Butch Huber, Fri, Sep 18 2009, 0:24:01 Priorities -- Active resident, Mon, Sep 21 2009, 0:27:41 The boards are back up, get over it. -- Butch Huber, Mon, Sep 21 2009, 1:16:23 Thanks Butch -- MTSU Student, Mon, Sep 21 2009, 6:52:24 Messages -- Homeowner, Mon, Sep 21 2009, 7:03:55 Comments -- WSHO (Smiling), Mon, Sep 21 2009, 7:09:08 Previous comments -- Another concerned neighbor, Mon, Sep 21 2009, 7:23:27